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Clean Air Calabasas
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| March 8, 2006
| Jacob Sullum
Posted on 03/08/2006 2:25:36 PM PST by neverdem
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posted on
03/08/2006 2:25:38 PM PST
by
neverdem
To: Travis McGee; goldstategop; William Tell; Gabz
health-nazi, nanny-state ping
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posted on
03/08/2006 2:28:04 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: neverdem; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ..
Good Grief...........
I'm on my way out the door - will be back to pick this up later..........
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posted on
03/08/2006 2:28:40 PM PST
by
Gabz
(Smokers are the beta version)
To: Gabz
"We are not trying to pit neighbor against neighbor," but if we were, this would be the best way to do it.
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posted on
03/08/2006 2:38:06 PM PST
by
fanfan
( "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" - Ayn Rand)
To: neverdem
I was debating getting a bus load of fellow smokers and going for a jaunt through Calabasas, puffing away, and seeing just how many folks their police department was willing to process, and then stopped.
Couching the law in puffy health language doesn't much change the fact that it is really a moral choice on the part of the city. They don't want people to smoke in public, and I think that such a choice should be within their power.
After all, if I want to go chug a six pack while walking down the street (of course, in a less than straight line as I exceed my personal tolerance for alcohol), I'd be arrested. It is, in most places, illegal to drink in public. Why shouldn't it be possible to make smoking illegal in public?
So instead, I've decided to not go to Calabasas anymore. Sure, it's easier for me now, since my grandparents have passed away, to make such a decision. And much easier to decide to shop in neighboring cities who will no doubt enjoy the additional sales tax revenue.
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posted on
03/08/2006 2:41:29 PM PST
by
kingu
(Liberalism: The art of sticking your fingers in your ears and going NANANANA..)
To: Gabz
i am not that far from Calabasas, I should drive there and light one up after this law takes effect!!!!
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posted on
03/08/2006 2:41:35 PM PST
by
markman46
(engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
To: Gabz
I'm on my way out the door - will be back to pick this up later.......... Ditto.
Welcome to the nazi state/city.
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posted on
03/08/2006 2:41:55 PM PST
by
Just A Nobody
(NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
To: neverdem
"Smoking is prohibited everywhere in the city," says a Calabasas ordinance
This is a hoot. During much of the year Calabasas (western San Fernando Valley) has intense smog, the kind that closes your breathing passages and drops visibility to under a mile. Outlawing outdoor smoking is so irrelvant to respiratory health in that environment has this ordinance bordering on the surreal.......
To: neverdem; SheLion
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posted on
03/08/2006 2:53:11 PM PST
by
nothingnew
(I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
To: Gabz; The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; ...
I'm on my way out the door - will be back to pick this up later..........Thanks for the ping!
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posted on
03/08/2006 3:19:00 PM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: neverdem
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posted on
03/08/2006 3:20:48 PM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: neverdem
since you can't smoke in the patio at the Sagebrush Cantina anymore and I don't have a relative in the Old Actors Home across the street I have no reason to visit Calabasas anymore.
To: neverdem
The city council, which unanimously approved the ordinance last month and has started calling the Los Angeles suburb "Clean Air Calabasas, a Smoke-Free City,"They must be referring to the Clean Air Calabasas Agenda, or as it's informally known, CACA.
[the city council] predicts the state government (which already prohibits smoking in indoor workplaces) will follow its example.
As if I needed another reason to go berserk on some of the people in this God-forsaken state.
To: SheLion; Gabz
"any outdoor area in which no non-smoker is present and...it is not reasonable to expect another person to arrive."
Stay away, eeeeeevvviillllllll smoker! I give you the forked sign of the evil lung!
I never would have thought I would see such Orwellian style government bullying in America in my time. Boy, was I wrong. Today, the peoples republik of kalifornia, tommorrow the world.
Liberty and justice for all. Yeah, right. {but we'll still take your tax money, evil, unhospitable smoker}
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posted on
03/08/2006 3:59:51 PM PST
by
383rr
(Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTOL=SLAVERY)
To: neverdem
Thanks for the ping.
It seems that the majority of Kalifornians won't be happy until they have driven every freedom-loving person from the state. The mischief that will then ensue will be a marvel to behold.
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posted on
03/08/2006 4:14:42 PM PST
by
William Tell
(RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
To: Gabz
One less city to consider to retire to. This will bite them in the "butt" eventually. There is a low wave beginning to build against the nazism being created in this country. It may take a while, but you will see a new wave of common sense like Reagan had , build. There will eventually be a revolt against the fascism or the country will become a 2nd or 3rd rate nation.
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posted on
03/08/2006 4:17:58 PM PST
by
bfree
(PC is BS)
To: neverdem
Where on earth do these people get the money to promote this agenda in every backwater community on earth?
Edgewood, NM , which has one (1) recently-added stoplight has an indoor smoking ban.
Near as I can tell, it was targeted at the Dairy Queen, which was one of two indoor eating joints (if you can call it that) anyway.
Sheesh!
To: SheLion
Your sign is has more truth than you may realize.
NYC goes after smokers who bought cigarettes on Internet
By SARA KUGLER
ASSOCIATED PRESS
NEW YORK, March 7 Thousands of New Yorkers who bought cigarettes on the Internet without paying sales taxes will be reordered to pay a collective $33 million that went unpaid, officials said.
City lawyers say New York loses millions of dollars a year from unpaid taxes on Internet cigarette purchases. They have gone after the online dealers with a series of lawsuits in recent years.
Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced Tuesday that the city reached a settlement with Virginia-based eSmokes. The company will provide the names and addresses of New York customers from 2000 to 2003, when a state ban on Internet sales took effect.
http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusgen/ap03-07-220737.asp?t=apnew&vts=3720062246
To: neverdem; Gabz; SheLion
I've read a few issues of "Reason" magazine. Great editorial by the Editor. :)
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posted on
03/08/2006 6:06:01 PM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: 383rr
I never would have thought I would see such Orwellian style government bullying in America in my time. Boy, was I wrong. Today, the peoples republik of kalifornia, tommorrow the world.
Liberty and justice for all. Yeah, right. {but we'll still take your tax money, evil, unhospitable smoker}Thank God for Free Republic where the truth can be told and millions will be able to read about it! I'm sick to death of all the lies being spewed by the highly paid anti-smokers around the United States and the world and everyone is just expected to believe them.
NO MORE!!!
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posted on
03/08/2006 6:30:21 PM PST
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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