[neverdem]

health-nazi, nanny-state ping

[Gabz]

Good Grief...........

I'm on my way out the door - will be back to pick this up later..........

[kingu]

I was debating getting a bus load of fellow smokers and going for a jaunt through Calabasas, puffing away, and seeing just how many folks their police department was willing to process, and then stopped.

Couching the law in puffy health language doesn't much change the fact that it is really a moral choice on the part of the city. They don't want people to smoke in public, and I think that such a choice should be within their power.

After all, if I want to go chug a six pack while walking down the street (of course, in a less than straight line as I exceed my personal tolerance for alcohol), I'd be arrested. It is, in most places, illegal to drink in public. Why shouldn't it be possible to make smoking illegal in public?

So instead, I've decided to not go to Calabasas anymore. Sure, it's easier for me now, since my grandparents have passed away, to make such a decision. And much easier to decide to shop in neighboring cities who will no doubt enjoy the additional sales tax revenue.

[doorgunner69]

"Smoking is prohibited everywhere in the city," says a Calabasas ordinance

This is a hoot. During much of the year Calabasas (western San Fernando Valley) has intense smog, the kind that closes your breathing passages and drops visibility to under a mile. Outlawing outdoor smoking is so irrelvant to respiratory health in that environment has this ordinance bordering on the surreal.......

[nothingnew]

PUFF

FMCDH(BITS)

[SheLion]

[Republicus2001]

since you can't smoke in the patio at the Sagebrush Cantina anymore and I don't have a relative in the Old Actors Home across the street I have no reason to visit Calabasas anymore.

[DumpsterDiver]

The city council, which unanimously approved the ordinance last month and has started calling the Los Angeles suburb "Clean Air Calabasas, a Smoke-Free City,"

They must be referring to the Clean Air Calabasas Agenda, or as it's informally known, CACA.

[the city council] predicts the state government (which already prohibits smoking in indoor workplaces) will follow its example.

As if I needed another reason to go berserk on some of the people in this God-forsaken state.

[elkfersupper]

Where on earth do these people get the money to promote this agenda in every backwater community on earth?

Edgewood, NM , which has one (1) recently-added stoplight has an indoor smoking ban.

Near as I can tell, it was targeted at the Dairy Queen, which was one of two indoor eating joints (if you can call it that) anyway.

Sheesh!

[Diana in Wisconsin]

I've read a few issues of "Reason" magazine. Great editorial by the Editor. :)

[Madame Dufarge]

it is not reasonable to expect another person to arrive."

Define "reasonable."

Weasel words.

[metesky]

I'm no lawyer, but in most jurisdictions misdemeanors have to be witnessed by a LEO.

I think this will get squashed by the first person with deep enough pockets to fight it in court.

This is also more proof of my longtime contention that most lawmakers at all levels have nothing constructive to do and should be made to stay home for 11 months a year.

[RandallFlagg]

This is bad. Very bad.

But what's worse is that there's many Americans (and some FReepers) who like these ideas. Who would love for this crap to go nationwide.

I've never even heard of a place called, "Calabasas."
I believe we'll be hearing that word a lot more in the next few years. It'll be where, they'll say, "It all started."