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BDS [Bush Derangement Syndrome] On the Right (Paleocons, and the like)
To The Point ^ | March 9, 2005 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 03/11/2006 4:08:48 PM PST by quidnunc

Ever since George W. Bush won the presidency by preventing Al Gore's hanging-chad attempt to steal it, liberal Democrats have become progressively infected with BDS — Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Here's how I think that the contagion of BDS is now infecting a number of conservative Republicans.

If you're a guy, perhaps you have endured this unpleasant and bewildering experience. You're in a relationship and you and the lady have had some disagreements but nothing major. From your perspective things are pretty ok. Then one day you and she disagree on some minor trivial issue — and suddenly, inexplicably, it escalates as she unloads on you.

It seems like the love of your life has had a personality transplant, you're facing a virago disgorging a torrent of anger, and all you can think is, "Where did this come from?"

If you're a guy, you're nodding your head in understanding. If you're a gal, you're muttering, "Men are so clueless. We give them all these hints for so long that things are bugging us, they never get the message, then when we finally can't take it any more and snap, they're mystified."

I think you get the analogy.

A relationship that suffers this trauma can survive only if both parties calm down afterwards, focus on their mutual interests and commitment, and work together to solve their grievances.

-snip-

But it's another thing entirely when Duncan Hunter (R-CA), chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, goes around the bend and offers a bill to make all foreign ownership or leasing of any cargo terminal in any US port illegal. Duncan, my buddy whom I've gone quail hunting with, how could he get so nuts?

There are some 3,200 terminals in US ports. 80% of them are foreign owned or leased. Unions and government regulations have made it impossible for US shipping companies to stay in business, making them bit players in the international shipping business. (See this story in the New York Times, US Companies Weighed Anchor on Ports Long Ago.)

Duncan's bill would cause astronomical damage to the US economy, but he doesn't care because he's on a BDS rant.

-snip-


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiwarright; bds; brownshirt; fortheloveofpete; getoverit; ignorant; metrosexual; nextissue; paleozenophobicons; sexist; soreloserism; toetheline
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To: Gelato
Didn't know Leftists refer to themselves as "demonrats," but whatever.

Plenty of leftists pretend to be conservative so as not be zotted on the spot.

281 posted on 03/12/2006 3:12:02 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Howlin

Impeach the Boy's post is right on the money. Conservatism is not monolithic, no matter how hard "true conservatives" think it is.


282 posted on 03/12/2006 3:20:34 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: bayourant
Amen. Conservatives need to realize that these purity test are going to kill us. Its is rare that any groups or segments of a party get everything they want.

10% would be nice.

But of course, the Bots will call me unreasonable for asking even that.

283 posted on 03/12/2006 3:20:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them.)
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To: Hill of Tara
Having strong conservative beliefs does.

Sitting at home on election day isn't exactly a "conservative belief", neither does it convey movement of any kind, including an agenda.

284 posted on 03/12/2006 3:23:53 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Hill of Tara; EternalVigilance; onyx; Howlin; 1035rep
"The bad attitude displayed by Bush loyalists on this thread and others is killing the party, my friend. "

Seriously.

So you both do admit to belonging to the party. LOL! 

You "true conservatives" are a laugh-out riot. 

285 posted on 03/12/2006 3:26:16 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Gelato
Only after conservatives said, "Over my dead body!" did Bush see the light, and Miers withdrew in shame. Alito is the result.

I'll give you credit on the Miers nomination and the DPW 45-day review. You didn't want to know the truth and killed a nomination and a port deal. You're pretty consistent with being scared of the truth.

286 posted on 03/12/2006 3:35:48 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: quidnunc
There are some 3,200 terminals in US ports. 80% of them are foreign owned or leased. Unions and government regulations have made it impossible for US shipping companies to stay in business, making them bit players in the international shipping business

And yet ... the nit wits in Congress ignore .. or pretend that isn't an issue

287 posted on 03/12/2006 3:39:55 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: 1035rep
I like JRB also for SCOTUS, but happy she stayed on our CA court. We needed her here.

JRB would be nice, upon the retirement of Stevens. Hopefully the next time around she won't withdraw her name from the shortlist now that the Democrats have been put on notice.

288 posted on 03/12/2006 3:40:32 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Cautor
Hunter was constantly pushing his corporate buddies in San Diego for government work. He's just another hack who's been in DC so long he has forgotten his roots.

Well his actions will come back to haunt him then

289 posted on 03/12/2006 3:43:39 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: proxy_user; JohnEBoy; COEXERJ145; quidnunc
You have explained exactly why he annoys the heck out of everyone! There is nothing more insulting than not being taken seriously as an enemy.

That certainly could be one of the major reasons the Dems. and others want to bring George W. Bush down.

But I swear, in the back of my mind, there is a group of the people trying to bring down Bush and this REPUBLICAN administration as simple payback for what they (mistakenly) consider the persecution of Clinton over Impeachment. And, there is part of me that believes that there is another group of people, perhaps big money people, out to get Bush because they are still trying to get paybacks for the assassination of JFK. "What" you may say. Well, in their "unusual" mindset, they may still harbor the thought that the military folks and CIA were involved in his killing in '63. Remember the character in "JFK" played by Donald Sutherland, Mr. X? He sums up the basis of that mindset very well.

Anyhow, they have their plans well set and they are relentless and have most of the rotten, lying, old media on their side, and we better keep the House and the Senate later this year...... and I think we will. I think George W. Bush is still holding a card or two to play.

****

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070924/posts

The American Thinker February 3, 2004 | Thomas Lifson

*****

One final note on George W. Bush’s management style and his Harvard Business School background does not derive from the classroom, per se. One feature of life there is that a subculture of poker players exists. Poker is a natural fit with the inclinations, talents, and skills of many future entrepreneurs. A close reading of the odds, combined with the ability to out-psych the opposition, leads to capital accumulation in many fields, aside from the poker table.

By reputation, the President was a very avid and skillful poker player when he was an MBA student. One of the secrets of a successful poker player is to encourage your opponent to bet a lot of chips on a losing hand. This is a pattern of behavior one sees repeatedly in George W. Bush’s political career. He is not one to loudly proclaim his strengths at the beginning of a campaign. Instead, he bides his time, does not respond forcefully, at least at first, to critiques from his enemies, no matter how loud and annoying they get. If anything, this apparent passivity only goads them into making their case more emphatically.

*****

A card --- I think somehow, at the right time before these congressional elections in the fall, enough info of WMD being moved before the war will be exposed. Even the old media won't be able to ignore it. Oh well, maybe I'm just dreaming.

290 posted on 03/12/2006 4:45:04 AM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it !)
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To: proxy_user; JohnEBoy; COEXERJ145; quidnunc
You have explained exactly why he annoys the heck out of everyone! There is nothing more insulting than not being taken seriously as an enemy.

That certainly could be one of the major reasons the Dems. and others want to bring George W. Bush down.

But I swear, in the back of my mind, there is a group of the people trying to bring down Bush and this REPUBLICAN administration as simple payback for what they (mistakenly) consider the persecution of Clinton over Impeachment. And, there is part of me that believes that there is another group of people, perhaps big money people, out to get Bush because they are still trying to get paybacks for the assassination of JFK. "What" you may say. Well, in their "unusual" mindset, they may still harbor the thought that the military folks and CIA were involved in his killing in '63. Remember the character in "JFK" played by Donald Sutherland, Mr. X? He sums up the basis of that mindset very well.

Anyhow, they have their plans well set and they are relentless and have most of the rotten, lying, old media on their side, and we better keep the House and the Senate later this year...... and I think we will. I think George W. Bush is still holding a card or two to play.

****

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070924/posts

The American Thinker February 3, 2004 | Thomas Lifson

One final note on George W. Bush’s management style and his Harvard Business School background does not derive from the classroom, per se. One feature of life there is that a subculture of poker players exists. Poker is a natural fit with the inclinations, talents, and skills of many future entrepreneurs. A close reading of the odds, combined with the ability to out-psych the opposition, leads to capital accumulation in many fields, aside from the poker table.

By reputation, the President was a very avid and skillful poker player when he was an MBA student. One of the secrets of a successful poker player is to encourage your opponent to bet a lot of chips on a losing hand. This is a pattern of behavior one sees repeatedly in George W. Bush’s political career. He is not one to loudly proclaim his strengths at the beginning of a campaign. Instead, he bides his time, does not respond forcefully, at least at first, to critiques from his enemies, no matter how loud and annoying they get. If anything, this apparent passivity only goads them into making their case more emphatically.

****

A card --- I think somehow, at the right time before these congressional elections in the fall, enough info of WMD being moved before the war will be exposed. Even the old media won't be able to ignore it. Oh well, maybe I'm just dreaming.

291 posted on 03/12/2006 4:46:23 AM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it .)
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To: quidnunc
The Bush administration was caught flat-footed...

Yes, who could have possibly anticipated that?

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292 posted on 03/12/2006 4:56:14 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: brainstem223
...We wait a interminable month and a half to strike back at the enemy in Afghanistan. We sit 5 years later and the WTC's haven't been replaced. In WWII we had all but one of those sunken battleships back in action promptly.

If I remember correctly, the US was getting its but kicked across the Pacific for several months in the early days of WWII, so a month and a half isn't an outrage to me.

As for rebuilding of the WTC, the complex was a PRIVATE enterprise, and the government(let alone, Bush) really shouldn't be held responisble for not having rebuilt something. You can blame that on the carping whinies up in NY arguing about the "message" the new 'whatever-it-is' should have. One of the reasons the owner's of the landlease haven't rebuilt anything is that they only insured ONE of the buildings (for less payments). If they'd insured both, then they could have started rebuilding right away. Now, they have to seek some outside help. Ergo, the outside carping influence.

293 posted on 03/12/2006 4:56:15 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: bayourant
.. Realize that not every muslim in the world is the enemy.

I agree with you and I wouldn't have minded if the DPW deal went through. That being said, I'm still not 100% sure that your above statement is true. I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach, that these (each Muslim) people will one day be drawn to the dark side of Islam and all become what we are fighting now.

294 posted on 03/12/2006 4:59:38 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
They wouldn't have rebuilt right away-if for no other reason than the fact that disputes over the memorial and the Freedom Tower, which is supposedly going to be the keystone architectural part of this project-would have remained unresolved.

They've already had to scrap the original plan for the Freedom Tower because of security concerns voiced by the NYPD.

I think entrusting Daniel Liebeskind with this was an atrocious idea, not quite mitigated by the forced Childs-Liebeskind partnership.

I agree with your general point though.

Blaming President Bush for the failures of the LMDC, Larry Silverstein, Governor Pataki, among others, is a bit absurd.

295 posted on 03/12/2006 5:05:37 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: brainstem223

Thanks, I tried.


296 posted on 03/12/2006 5:06:01 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Soul Seeker; quidnunc

In late December 2000, just after Gore conceded, he had a meeting with Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz to get their views on what to focus on in his administration's foreign policy. After they were through, he asked, "What about India?" They stared at him. "It's a democracy of one billion people," he explained. "We need India as an ally. It's the only country in Asia that can stand up to China. I want a policy for India from you." After two weeks, he bugged Condi again. She had forgotten. No one but Bush understood how important an alliance with India was to America's national security. Thus the triumph of Bush's India visit last week.....This is just an example of Bush's geopolitical smarts."

Hadn't heard that before. G.W.B.'s wisdom and coup with India I well knew and had followed, but wasn't aware Gore had a sane thought about it. Though, that was back before he allowed 2000 to fester to a point where he went completely mad.
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Point of clarification: It looked to me like quidnunc said Bush met after Gore's concession.


297 posted on 03/12/2006 5:10:44 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Howlin; EternalVigilance; sauropod

Archivist saves and squirrels away each and every discussion forum message. Do you remember having a bad day back in 1996 when in one of your messages you may have said a few things that were...well, perhaps a little...hasty? Don't worry, Archivist still has it and will post it to the forum if you begin to get the upper hand in battle. Archivist can be a very effective and fearsome Warrior.

298 posted on 03/12/2006 5:12:53 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: brainstem223

I'm not proud....

I don't like to be made to look like a fool...(I'd say I work pretty hard at not looking like a fool, but I don't think that would quite convey what I actually mean : )
especially on a global scale.

This, IMHO, was a classic knee-jerk (although I don't like that term)-with everyone acting surprised that a foreign company would 'take over' our ports- and then slamming it down (with little to no discussion of the facts. In my book, that is an ignorant decision. I (personally) don't appreciate being known for making ignorant decisions.


299 posted on 03/12/2006 5:19:08 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: ohioWfan

I agree, W. Who screamed FIRE in this tunnel????

I am morbidly ashamed.


300 posted on 03/12/2006 5:21:30 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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