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Posted on 03/21/2006 10:21:04 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Insider Reveals All at Sujiatun Are Falun Gong Practitioners
Subjects of live cornea removal are mainly the elderly or children
The Epoch Times Mar 21, 2006
The front entrance to the Sujiatun Concentration Camp and a map of the region (The Epoch Times) [High-resolution image ]
The Epoch Times has conducted another interview with the witness who came forward several days ago to reveal details regarding the Sujiatun concentration camp in Northeast China. In this interview the witness revealed that her ex-husband was one of the main surgeons in the concentration camp. He is a brain surgeon, and was mainly in charge of cornea removal. Because of the horrifying character of live organ removal and the burning of corpses, the witness and her family have had destructive life experiences. Every time she recalls events in Sujiatun, she endures indescribable pain.
The witness said that her ex-husband had a cell phone specifically for this type of business. No matter when and where, as soon as the cell phone rang, he would go to perform the operation. During the 2 years of working at Sujiatun, he did several cornea removal operations per day.
Her ex-husband told her that those detained in the Sujiatun concentration camp were all Falun Gong practitioners. For others, even prisoners sentenced to death, organ removals could not be done without proper paperwork and procedures. Only for Falun Gong practitioners, due to the central Communist Party policy that the deaths of practitioners are "counted as suicide," the hospital can detain and remove organs from them live without any procedures. Every surgeon knew they were Falun Gong practitioners. They were told that doing such things to Falun Gong practitioners were not crimes. Instead, they were "cleaning" for the Chinese Communist Party. Those on the operation table were either mentally destroyed or had lost consciousness. Major targets of cornea removal were the elderly and children.
A reader from Mainland China called the Epoch Times New York office Saturday and told us that: a celebrity in China had a liver transplant. The liver belonged to a Falun Gong practitioner. This reader also revealed that the General Hospital of the Army and Police Force in Beijing still stores organs of Falun Gong practitioners for high-ranking officials and celebrities. He said that he obtained this information from a relative of this celebrity.
According to recent reports on the Minghui web site, the Sujiatun Concentration Camp might not be the only concentration camp in China. In 2000, the police of Sanhe City in Hebei Province and the Beijing Office of Sichuan said to Falun Gong practitioners: "You don't tell us your names. We will send you to very faraway concentration camps. Nobody will know you are there." "There are concentration camps in Northeast China and Xinjiang."
The following is the translation of the conversation between the Epoch Times reporter and the witness:
Epoch Times: How could the Sujiatun Concentration Camp remain so secret?
Answer : Because several people share the profit. So they won't tell others. This room here can hold at least 100 people. You know, when Falun Gong practitioners are detained, they are not allowed any private space. All are packed together. Maybe one goes to the toilet and comes back; one will not find any space any more. Many Falun Gong practitioners were detained in a one-story residential house in the hospital. This house was dismantled in 2003. We guessed that there was an unknown basement. A living room of a regular U.S. house can easily hold 100 people. Our hospital is very large. They will not admit there was once that one-story residential house. They might say that it was built for peasant workers or the homeless.
ET: Do you think Chi Mingyu, the head of the Sujiatun hospital, knew about this?
A : I think he should know.
ET: This is a concentration camp in a public location?
A : It's semi-public. Everyone has heard of this hospital. It's quite famous. However, people who don't have heart or thrombi diseases usually won't come to the hospital. So it's not an entirely public location either.
Sujiatun is a suburban district of Shenyang. It is like a rural area. Whether other hospitals in the Sujiatun District did the same thing, I don't know. Staff in the public health system can rotate within the system freely.
We found that supplies in the hospital suddenly increased. We guessed: what are so many people coming for? I commuted to work by a shuttle. We didn't care so much. We also didn't know whether Falun Gong was good or bad.
ET: How did you know about the live organ removal?
A : During the 2003 Chinese New Year, people visited each other for the New Year. For example, they gathered to play Chinese chess, or Mahjong. When they chatted, they talked a little bit about this kind of thing. I knew that my family had easy money, but didn't know the source. Later on, my ex-husband told me about this.
My ex-husband is a quite talented brain surgeon. Many heads of hospitals wanted him to work at their hospitals. It was easy to use him. He's smart. He knew how to obtain money.
When he joined the Sujiatun hospital, he was an intern doctor. Very soon, he was promoted to surgeon. Starting from 2003, I noticed that he was often absent-minded. For example, he watched TV holding a sofa pillow. When I shut off the TV, he would not notice.
At the beginning, my ex-husband simply said he wanted to find another job. I was very surprised: Why? We are having a good life here at Sujiatun. Gradually, he started sweating at night and having nightmares. When he would wake up, the bed sheet would be soaked with his sweat in a human shape. I asked him whether his job was too stressful. Sometimes he had long discussions with my father in our reading room. He said he wanted to change jobs and asked my father to help him. However, for some reason, nobody in our family helped him switch his job.
Finally, I couldn't tolerate any more. I asked him. Then he told me this. My friend witnessed Falun Gong practitioners detained in Sujiatun. Everyone knew that a lot of Falun Gong practitioners were sent from Masanjia and Dabei prisons. We didn't mind thinking about it. A lot of people who work at Sujiatun are from families of high-ranking cadres. We have formed this habit since very young: Do not ask anything that's not relevant to us.
The brother of one of my classmates went overseas in 2002 shortly after he participated in this business. He left after performing a few operations.
ET: What kind of operations did your ex-husband do?
A : He did cornea removal. At the beginning, he didn't know whether those people had been granted permission. People who were on operation tables were not conscious. They were alive. He knew it after performing a few. How could there be so many people who donated their corneas? He said that the person who asked him to do this kind of thing told him: you are already on this boat. Killing one is murder. Killing several is also murder. He said that later on he also knew that the people were alive. Where the organs and corpse were sent, he didn't ask.
Then he began to face retribution. He was even very nervous when driving. He could not live a normal life.
By 2003, many people in the public health bureau knew about it. Not only family members knew, even some outsiders knew about it.
My ex-husband told me that those patients who needed kidneys were in other hospitals. The kidney would be removed in the Sujiatun hospital. He didn't know much about the aftermath. Maybe corpses were sent to the Sujiatun crematorium or the incinerator.
A person would not have cornea removal only. Very possibly, other organs would be removed from this person as well. This was no different than murder. When surgeons deviate a little bit, their knives are killing people.
I divorced because of this. If it had been extra-marital affairs, maybe I could still tolerate it. The fact that he could tell me this indicated that he had a little conscience left. If he hadn't told me, I wouldn't have believed it. He told me this with his own mouth. Nobody would say that he did something like this.
ET: Were there any other surgeons?
A: There are other surgeons. My ex-husband is a brain surgeon. It's not possible that he does kidney removal.
ET: How did you now that all detainees at Sujiatun were Falun Gong practitioners?
A : They are all Falun Gong practitioners. For other people, they have relatives. Relatives would come to ask for family members. Only when Falun Gong practitioners are sent here, their families don't know. Masanjia and Dabei prisons detain a lot of Falun Gong practitioners. Now there are not that many any more. Everyday people are released. Where were these Falun Gong practitioners sent?
Those Falun Gong practitioners who were detained in Sujiatun, they had refused to sign a letter saying that they wouldn't practice Falun Gong any more. Many protested via hunger strike. They were very weak due to not having food.
Everyone was given a piece of paper. If you wouldn't practice Falun Gong, put your fingerprint on the paper, and you would be released immediately. Once a person went out of where the practitioners were detained, the people inside didn't know where they went. They thought that these people were released. Or they were told that these people were taken to other hospitals for treatment. Those who were taken out were usually first beaten until they lost consciousness. Then anesthetic would be injected.
ET: According to the official web site of the Shenyang City legal system, the Sujiatun hospital organized in 2000 all Chinese communist party cadres to study the decision to persecute Falun Gong.
A : I didn't know about this. Sometimes my ex-husband lived in the hospital dorm. He usually didn't mention that kind of thing to me. He would simply call home and say he was busy, and then he wouldn't come home.
My ex-husband knew they were Falun Gong practitioners. Every surgeon knew it. At that time, they were told that persecuting Falun Gong was not counted as a crime. Instead, it was "cleaning" for the Chinese communist party. Those on the operation table were either mentally destroyed or had lost consciousness. Major targets of cornea removal were the elderly and children.
Many Falun Gong practitioners were detained in a one-story residential house in the hospital. This house was dismantled in 2003. We guessed that there was an unknown basement. They will not admit there was once the one-story residential house. They might say that it was built for peasant workers or the homeless.
My ex-husband was also worried that someday he would be killed for the purpose of destroying evidence. So he went abroad. Other people knew he wouldn't dare to speak out.
ET: Over the years, no relatives came to ask for family members?
A : During 2001 and 2003, only one peasant came to ask whether his family members were detained here. It was all secret. Nobody knew. When people were arrested, there was no paperwork. When people were released, there was no paperwork either.
Persecution is persecution. It is against humanity. As a Chinese, I feel quite sad. This is Chinese killing Chinese. It's unlike the slaughter in Nanjing when the Japanese invaded China. This is killing our own fellow people. No matter whether they practice Falun Gong or not, they are our fellow people. This is very brutal.
ET: Did those who were part of it feel that they did wrong things?
A : Between life and money, some people choose money. After I knew this, I told my ex-husband: "Your entire life is ruined. You will not be able to hold surgical knives any more." When you perform an operation for people, you will remember things you did in the past. I am not the surgeon. Even so, whenever I talk about this, I'm trembling and afraid.
Later, after my ex-husband completed procedures for going abroad, he had to explain to me why he had to leave. I told him that you could only choose things prior to this [live organ removal], but not anything after this.
I don't practice Falun Gong. I am not so noble. I did not come to the U.S. from so far-away to expose this to the world. My friend told me to travel to the U.S. to cheer me up. He told me that America is a country that emphasizes human rights. It's a free country. He said that you could speak out your experiences here. People think that I divorced because my ex-husband wanted to go abroad, and I didn't want to go. Others were not happy with me. They asked me why I divorced my ex-husband, and that he was such a good man.
Now we expose this to the world. At least a portion of people there can still survive. I don't care if they admit it or not. Exposing it will deter these evil actions.
I think for those who have read this news, if they have missing relatives, they should gather together and demand an explanation from relevant government agencies. When people disappear, they are either dead or crazy. Otherwise, they will find a way to send a message home.
The Shenyang Morning News reported on the 11th that a peasant worker was cremated without a family signature. The person is already cremated. Who knows whether the organs have already been removed?
I saw that there was a confession from a spy. There will be a confession from a doctor. He doesn't have to reveal his name. However, he can spread the information. Anyone who has done this kind of things feels the burden of guilt.
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The Sujiatun Concentration Camp (The Epoch Times)Brief Introduction of the Sujiatun Concentration Camp
Sujiatun is one of the nine districts governed by Shenyang City. It is a satellite city 15 kilometers to the South of Shenyang City. The Sujiatun Concentration Camp is also called National Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) Thrombus Treatment Center. The address is 49 Xuesong RoadCSujiatun DistrictCShenyang CityCLiaoning ProvinceCChinaD It is also called Liaoning Thrombus Treatment Center of Integrated Chinese and Western MedicineDIt was built in 1998.
Ping!
OMG
One of our "most favored nations".
Thanks. To me this is important. But I am feeling no one cares, really.
The day the Republicans went to bed with the Communists was the official beginning of the end of America.
Have not come across corroboration from other sources yet. I am looking. However, this story is too specific to brush aside.
http://www.asianresearch.org/articles/2850.html
Concentration Camp for Falun Gong Disclosed; Prisoners Killed for Organs
“Nobody has yet to come out,” Chinese Journalist Reveals
Falun Dafa Information Center
3/17/2006
(3/9/2006 7:19)
NEW YORK (FDI)—The Falun Dafa Information Center received shocking, detailed information on Wednesday from a Chinese investigative journalist documenting a concentration camp set up in Shenyang city, Liaoning province, expressly for Falun Gong practitioners. The news comes on the heels of the Department of State’s 2005 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, released Wednesday; the report documents continued, systematic abuses of the Falun Gong in China.
Information about the camp was relayed via audio recording from a Chinese journalist. It is the first time news of the secret camp’s existence was disclosed to outsiders. The camp is said to hold over 6,000 Falun Gong adherents at any given time, and “nobody has yet to come out” from it alive. According to the source, it contains a crematorium, and an unusually large number of doctors work there—reflecting the camp’s practice of killing prisoners for their organs, which are then sold for profit.
The source tried to convey the horror of what is happening in the concentration camp: “Why was a crematorium built, and why are so many doctors housed there? … The answer is something unimaginable. You must be clear that a cremator for bodies is different than a burner used for sanitation purposes.”
Located in the Sujiatun district of Shenyang city, the camp, dubbed the Sujiatun Concentration Camp, is surrounded by walls three meters high, topped with electrified barbed wire. It is heavily fortified and said to be highly secret; locals know close to nothing about it. Those held inside are Falun Gong adherents from China’s three northeastern provinces as well as central China; many are said to have been transferred there from various labor camps. CCP authorities involved with the camp have “learned many things from North Korea,” according to the source.
“This is deeply, terribly disturbing, and confirms our worst fears: that CCP authorities remain intent on ‘eradicating’ Falun Gong, and in their desperation will go to any lengths,” stated FDI spokesperson Mr. Erping Zhang. “We need to be clear that the persecution has not gone away—it has merely become darker and more hidden.”
The Chinese source spoke at length about the unlawful “harvesting” of organs in the Sujiatun facility. “If Falun Dafa practitioners are sent to Sujiatun,” he said, “they have no chance of coming out … The CCP won’t let a prisoner consume food forever. So what are they up to, then? … the Falun Dafa practitioners are killed for their organs, which are sent off to various medical facilities. Organ sales is now a highly profitable business in China.”
“They can’t find enough bodies through executions, and no bodies are more readily available for this business than those of the [Falun Dafa] practitioners,” he stated.
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=9543
The Chinese Lecture on Human Rights
By Robert T. McLean
Published 3/21/2006 12:07:05 AM
It is that time of year again when all of a sudden Beijing is concerned with human rights. The Information Office of the State Council of the People's Republic of China issued a report on March 9 entitled "The Human Rights Record of the United States in 2005." This is a yearly ritual conducted by Beijing in response to the Country Reports on Human Rights Practices released annually by the United States. The PRC's report states its intentions with the following explanation: "To help people realize the true features of this self-styled 'guardian of human rights,' it is necessary to probe into the human rights abuses in the United States in 2005." Thus, China has entered into a political clash with the United States in an effort to expose Washington's "hypocrisy." But is this report anything more than a state-sponsored joke? You be the judge.
Entitled "On Life and Security of Person," the first section of the report explores the performance of the United States government in providing the necessary security required to protect its citizens. The crime rate in America is provided with particular emphasis on violent cities and well-publicized cases of homicides throughout the year. The idea here is that "the unchecked spread of guns has caused incessant murders" and that this constitutes a transparent violation of human rights. Perhaps if the United States only had a one-party dictatorship that squashed individual freedoms Americans would be fortunate enough to have a more peaceful society on the model of the Peoples Republic of China.
The following section details the supposed excesses of law enforcement and the judiciary. As evidence the report provides the juvenile epithet for the issue of domestic wiretapping as the "Snoopgate scandal" and notes: "Secret snooping is prevalent and illegal detention occurs from time to time." Additional support includes the allegation that while the "United States proclaims to be a 'paradise of freedom,'" more Americans are imprisoned than anywhere else in the world. However, to really drive home the human rights situation in America it is noted: "On December 21, 2005, the U.S. Senate voted to extend the Patriot Act, a move that aroused keen concern in public opinion." Oh, the nerve of the United States Senate!
Wal mart at work!
Sounds fishy. Have you seen any reports of this elsewhere other than ET?
Not yet.
Thanks, but that looks like the exact same interview.
The swastika-like sign has been used in Buddhism for millennia. It has nothing to do with Nazism.
I realize that, but it is still creepy.
It seemed freaky to me at first. But it is an old Buddhist symbol.
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