Posted on 04/01/2006 7:59:28 AM PST by RayRobisonblog
Iraq VP and Taliban representative meeting II
"Both in One Trench"
ISGP-2003-00014127
Ray: Sammi provides us with a follow up meeting between a Pakistani cleric and the Vice President of Iraq. The main topic is establishment of a secret relationship between the Taliban and Iraq through Iraqi Intelligence apparatus for the purpose of assisting each other against the United States. Context: before the Taliban took full control of Kandahar, there were several factions fighting to gain power. There is another document at the FMSO website in which Saddam and his ministers discuss Afghanistan and how the different factions are vying for control. These meetings lend very strong support to the conclusion that the Taliban sought Iraq's support to not only take and maintain control in Afghanistan but to be an allie against the U.S. and that Iraq chose to support the Taliban.
Sammi: Translator’s notes: -The diary is 76 pages on the computer screen. Many screens cover 2 pages in the diary. -The diary belongs to someone called Khaled Abd El Majid and covers events taking place in 1999 since the diary is for the year 1999 (Page 3/76). -On page 5/76 he has a note reminding him of a “Meeting with Mr. Taha Yassin Ramadan” with the house’s phone number. Ramadan is the vice-president of Iraq from March 1991 to the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003. - There are two important meetings with a Pakistan Islamic cleric named Fadl Ur Rahman. His plan is to establish relations between Baghdad and the Taliban. The second meeting is taking place on 28/11/1999. -The Pakistani is not from Taliban but in contact with them. -The diary is hand written which makes it sometimes difficult to read. -Since Arabic is written from right to left, the meeting starts on page 20/76 and ends on page 17/76. -In 28/11/1999 Ossama had already struck the two US Embassies in Africa and officially declared war on America. - In 28/11/1999 Ossama was already in Afghanistan, hosted by the Taliban regime.
This is the translation of the second meeting.
Meeting of Mr. M. O. M. with Sheikh Maulana Fadl Ur Rahman on Sunday 28/11, 7:45 PM
Words of welcoming.
-We are aiming to arrange a meeting between you and Mr. President Leader (translator’s note: this is how Iraqi officials call Saddam). But in the beginning we were instructed that Mr. Vice-President will meet you. (translator’s note: this is the proof that the “Vice-President” of the first meeting was the VP of Saddam, Taha Yassin Ramadan)
-: I personally met Hekmatyar (translator’s note: an Afghani warlord fighting the Taliban) and he asked us to interfere for the possibility of closer relations with the Taliban. And he sent us emissaries concerning this issue. (translator’s note: On the original document Fadl Ur Rahman is not is saying this sentence for the simple reason that Fadl’s name is quoted at the beginning of the following sentence. It is probably M.O. M.the Iraqi official. It is not mentioned where the meeting of M.O.M. and Hekmatyar took place)
- Fadl Ur Rahman: I am the one who started with this issue, the relation between Taliban and Iraq and it is our idea. The brothers in Afghanistan are facing the pressure of America, and are struggling against America and aim to have some connections between Afghanistan and Iraq and it is a good start to establish the relations with Iraq and Libya and our association has taken this responsibility upon her. I already met with Mr. the Vice-President and the previous head of the directorate may God rest his soul (translator’s note: apparently the head of the directorate passed away) and both proposed that Hekmatyar and the Taliban should get to an agreement. I spoke with the Taliban about this issue and they started meeting with delegations from the Islamic Party and I met Mullah Omar and his reply was positive.
Considering the characters involved, slit trench.
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I have asked this before and didn't get an answer. Who/what is "Mr. M. O. M.?" What does M.O.M. stand for?
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