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Whats wrong with America's high schools
CNN ^

Posted on 04/09/2006 11:42:31 AM PDT by The Lion Roars

It's lunchtime at Shelbyville High School, 30 miles southeast of Indianapolis, Indiana, and more than 100 teenagers are buzzing over trays in the cafeteria. Like high schoolers everywhere, they have arranged themselves by type: jocks, preps, cheerleaders, dorks, punks and gamers, all with tables of their own. Shawn Sturgill, 18, had a clique of his own at Shelbyville High, a dozen or so friends who sat at the same long bench in the hallway outside the cafeteria. They were, Shawn says, an average crowd. These days the bench is mostly empty. Of his dozen friends, Shawn says just one or two are still at Shelbyville High.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: america; education; highschools; hseducation; publikskoolz
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this was bound to happen. instead of teaching morals, religion and science, our schools have become mating grounds.
1 posted on 04/09/2006 11:42:35 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: The Lion Roars

The article says the dropout rate has been approximately 30% for two decades.


2 posted on 04/09/2006 11:52:09 AM PDT by ivyleaguebrat
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To: The Lion Roars
Send them to a private school. Do the research beforehand. Find out the stats, meet the teachers, find what morals they teach, talk to the students. Its an investment. Unless you want your kids asking for money your whole life (and not being able to take care of you when you are unmable to work..and lets face it, no one likes social security).

Afterward, encourage them to join the military to help pay for college. Coast Guard, Marines, Army..you know better than anyone which branch they'd fit right into.

3 posted on 04/09/2006 11:52:37 AM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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Want to keep more kids in school?

1. Stop paying kids to have babies and be able to get on the public dole for life. Have a baby then you have to pay to feed it, cloth it, house it and take care of it medically.

2. Change the schools back to a place of learning not the hang out place that they are now. Get rid of inflated grades. You flunk then you get an F.

3. Fire the teaches who know less about the subject and text book than the kids do.

I have two kids in high school and see what's going on in our public schools.


4 posted on 04/09/2006 11:52:58 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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Get your kids into a school that doesn't have to take the degenerates along with the good kids ie a private school. If you must use a public school, push like hell to get your kids into honors/advanced placement classes.
5 posted on 04/09/2006 11:55:03 AM PDT by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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Ah, George Bush - THROWING MORE MONEY AT THE PROBLEM WILL

NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!!

It is the parents who don't care - too busy working and not involved with their kids. It's the curriculum and the CONTENT of what TEACHERS indoctrinate them with that leaves them with HUGE egos but NO knowledge. It is the LACK of DISCIPLINE in schools that allow for kids to keep pushing the envelope to their own demise and other kids having to TOLERATE the wasting of THEIR TIME. It's about teachers that would rather MOLEST their students than teach them anything worthwhile. It's about the CONSTANT LOWERING of STANDARDS for all kids in public schools.

Your best bet is to HOMESCHOOL or put them in a PRIVATE school that is CONSERVTIVE - that is IF you really care about your kids.
6 posted on 04/09/2006 12:00:28 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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By definition, half of high school students have IQs below the nationwide median 98 [in the particular schools it is, of course, depending on the student body composition. With the predominance of the East Asians, midpoint goes to about 106, with Ashkenazi Jews to 112-113]. Cutoff point for the lowest 1/3 is about 87-90 nationwide. Below IQ 85 the question of educability becomes significant.
As Renaissance thinker and historian Francesco Guicciardini wrote, 'education does not improve weak minds, and is frequently ruinous'.
7 posted on 04/09/2006 12:01:11 PM PDT by GSlob
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Excerpt from the article:

"In today's data-happy era of accountability, testing and No Child Left Behind, here is the most astonishing statistic in the whole field of education: an increasing number of researchers are saying that nearly one out of three public high school students won't graduate, not just in Shelbyville but around the nation."

IF they are willing to ADMIT THIS, you KNOW it's WORSE THAN THAT! BTW this is not linked to a particular race or economic class - public schools don't work. It's time to ABOLISH them and give everyone VOUCHERS!


8 posted on 04/09/2006 12:02:17 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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"Get your kids into a school that doesn't have to take the degenerates along with the good kids ie a private school. If you must use a public school, push like hell to get your kids into honors/advanced placement classes."

I USED to think that would be the answer ... I no longer do.

It's WHAT they indoctrinate kids with that is the problem. The agenda or curriculum is too LEFTIST. All this program accomplishes is brighter kids being indoctrinated faster with better results.
9 posted on 04/09/2006 12:04:12 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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That's a great point. Kids have no boundaries, no expectations.
These kids need to be challenged and encouraged and held to higher standards. We reap what we sow.


10 posted on 04/09/2006 12:06:41 PM PDT by derllak
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[ Whats wrong with America's high schools ]

Socialism?... thats whats wrong.. Socialism is slavery by government..
And the High Schools are the chief preaparation for political socialism..
Followed by the colleges..

Democracy(as a government) is taught at many levels and democracy is the disease that causes socialism.. Education and Re-education camps.. promoting sedition to this Republic..

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Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

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Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. – John Adams (1814)

11 posted on 04/09/2006 12:11:37 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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Whats wrong with America's high schools

Mexico. And points south.
OK, that at least part of the problem.
12 posted on 04/09/2006 12:13:27 PM PDT by VOA
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Latin, Greek, Hebrew, English. They don't even teach English anymore.


13 posted on 04/09/2006 12:15:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Windsong

Private schools are great but they are very expensive. I would guess that most families cannot begin to afford the tuition, especially if they have more than one child. We have 3 kids in Catholic school and pay over 25,000 in tuition. It is a huge sacrifice that I hope will be worth it. If we were not able to afford it, I would volunteer as much as possible at the public school. It provides a lot of information that can help your kids get a good education and avoid many of the potential problems.


14 posted on 04/09/2006 12:17:53 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: RightWhale

Please provide a link to a high school that does not teach English.


15 posted on 04/09/2006 12:19:03 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: nmh

The best solution is to get the government completely out of the equation and let schools compete. Bust the teachers' union and make education completely free-market. Cut taxes so people can afford to send their kids to the best schools possible.


16 posted on 04/09/2006 12:19:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (A nickel bag gets sold in the park. I WANT IN!)
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To: hosepipe

Marx perpetrated one of the great myths on mankind since Homer. The end of history! The state shall wither away! By Zeus' pregnant thigh there has been little to compare in modern times.


17 posted on 04/09/2006 12:19:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: ga medic

Sorry, can't find one.


18 posted on 04/09/2006 12:20:49 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: The Lion Roars

We also have data that the longer Americans stay in public schools, the worse they do. Dropping out isn't the worst problem.


19 posted on 04/09/2006 12:33:59 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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[ Marx perpetrated one of the great myths on mankind since Homer. ]

Worked pretty good too eh!...
Since communism IS socialism and all of URP, Canada, Russia, China, and a good many other places are totally socialist enclaves in one form or another.. Socialism has been bought hook line and sinker.. The entire democrat party and part of the republican party is/are socialists..

Pretty good for a myth.. the myth has been bought as fact.. and there are few to say Socialism is slavery by government.. Worse SOME WANT to be enslaved by their government.. BIG Givernment republicans in particular..

20 posted on 04/09/2006 12:37:06 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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