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GOP Chiefs Don't Want Immigrants Charged [losing their spine - Hastert, Frist...]
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Posted on 04/11/2006 4:43:58 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

GOP Chiefs Don't Want Immigrants Charged

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent 29 minutes ago

The two top Republicans in Congress, confronted with internal party divisions as well as large public demonstrations, said Tuesday they intend to pass immigration legislation that does not subject illegal aliens to prosecution as felons.

A written statement by Speaker Dennis Hastert of Illinois and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, did not say whether they would seek legislation subjecting illegal immigrants to misdemeanor prosecution or possibly a civil penalty such as a fine.

"It remains our intent to produce a strong border security bill that will not make unlawful presence in the United States a felony," the two men said. An estimated 11 million men, women and children are in the United States illegally.

The Republican-controlled House passed legislation late last year that is generally limited to border security measures. It makes illegal immigrants subject to felony prosecution.

Senate efforts to write a broader bill — covering border security, a guest worker program and a path to citizenship for many of the 11 million in the country illegally — are gridlocked with lawmakers on a two-week vacation.

Frist has said he intends to bring the issue back to the Senate floor, although he stopped short of a flat commitment and the prospects for passage of an election-year immigration bill are uncertain.

The late-afternoon statement by the top GOP leaders in both houses came after days of large street demonstrations by protestors opposed to criminal penalties for illegal immigrants.

Additionally, in a Washington Post-ABC News poll published during the day, only 20 percent of those questioned said they favored declaring illegal immigrants to be felons

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 04/11/2006 4:43:59 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

CALL HASTERT AND FRIST and let them know that we WILL NOT let ourselves be held hostage by a bunch of Cholo busboys and dishwashers!


2 posted on 04/11/2006 4:47:13 PM PDT by Clemenza (Bayonne L.A.M.F.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I would said if the particular illegal alien has a tax id number (whch means he/she is actually paying taxes), charge them w/ a misdemeanor, give them a spanking and make them sign up for a green card.

If they don't have a tax id number, which means they are not just an illegal alien, but a tax evader as well, charge them with a felony and deport them as fast as the Mexico City airport can handle the traffic.

4 posted on 04/11/2006 4:49:09 PM PDT by Tamar1973 ("There are some things for which we should display no tolerance." Queen Margrethe II of Denmark)
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I just want the illegals deported and the crimminals who hire them charged.


5 posted on 04/11/2006 4:49:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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bang head...

Yep. Repeatedly.

6 posted on 04/11/2006 4:49:52 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Clemenza

You're mistaken.

The original bill had a felon provision. The House Repulicans later moved to remove it. Most voted to remove it, but most Democrats voted to keep it in.

The Senate version makes the crime a misdemeanor, but hard to figure out in that bill who could be breaking the law!


7 posted on 04/11/2006 4:50:01 PM PDT by Shermy
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Groovy.

So charge them with income tax evasion the day they walk in for the amnesty, or else absolve them of all the crimes they committed, and then explain that to the ordinary American.

It isn't just crossing into and being in the country. It's violating labor laws, tax laws, document fraud, welfare fraud, driving laws (you drove a car without a license and insurance for 5 years?), a whole laundry list of felonies that already exist on the books.

Do the Spineless Ones propose to issue a blanket amnesty for all the rest of us who may have fractured a few of these laws, or are we held to a different standard than the average criminal alien?

8 posted on 04/11/2006 4:50:03 PM PDT by Regulator
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There has to be some penalty or there is no deterrent and without that, we really don't need any of these laws. I'd think a midemeanor for a 1st offense and a felony for a second. I'd also require anyone caught to forever forfeit any legal chance to enter.


9 posted on 04/11/2006 4:50:10 PM PDT by umgud (12 gauge, the original pepper spray)
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Its a joke, right? If we're not going to jail or deport illegals, we might as well amnesty them all. The GOP has no intention of taking a stand on principle.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

10 posted on 04/11/2006 4:50:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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The house republican voted to take out the felony part of the bill, while the house dems and a few republicans vote to keep it. It was intended to poison the bill. I do not see that as a positive element of the bill. We can enforce the laws we have without calling each illegal a felon....but that's entirely up the president...


11 posted on 04/11/2006 4:50:28 PM PDT by Rick_Michael
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bang head

LOL, head banging solves all problems,,,,line up these losers, bang heads and then give them a spine transplant.

12 posted on 04/11/2006 4:51:00 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (Say what you feel, those that matter don't mind, those that mind don't matter.)
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...said Tuesday they intend to pass immigration legislation that does not subject illegal aliens to prosecution as felons.

This is not news. They said last week that the word "felony" would not be included in the final bill.

13 posted on 04/11/2006 4:51:39 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Tamar1973
Spines? We don' need no steenkin' spines !!!

How can they lose what they never had ?

It has been said a people get the kind of government they deserve.

14 posted on 04/11/2006 4:51:42 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: Clemenza

P.S.

The Democrat tactic was to define the bill as imposing felony penalty. They defined it so by refusing to have the provision removed. About 80 Republicans wanted to keep in the felon provision.


15 posted on 04/11/2006 4:51:53 PM PDT by Shermy
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If they can avoid calling them criminals they should. This is a simple matter of logistics. IF they could be called felons the scumbags that will be coaching them could get themselves 100,000 kamikazes and completely swamp our court system. Remember these bastards want to destroy America. We have to find a way to screw these illegal aliens without screwing ourselves. Let's not be too quick to say they are spineless. When we have to, we should come down on them like a ton of bricks, but if it's not necessary, lets give them the benefit of the doubt.


16 posted on 04/11/2006 4:53:54 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Everyday brings a new reason to distrust Hillary Clinton.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I literally feel ill.


17 posted on 04/11/2006 4:54:56 PM PDT by Number57
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The Republican leadership has never had a spine. Those who tried to speak up and take a stand on the problems of the day have been destroyed by the liberal Rats and their lapdogs in the MSM and the rank and file GOPer's just got out of their way at let them do it. The two men that I am talking about is Newt and Tom Delay.

When the the Republicans once and for all learn to fight fire with fire. No, fight fire with nuclear weapons, they will defeat people like Ted Kenedy and Barbara Boxer on their home turf and we would have a fillibuster proof majority in the Senate. But the way these Bozos (including the White House) are playing the PR game today, they deserve to lose and lose badly. I am not going to be depressed if we lose in November because it will not surprise me one bit if we lose.


18 posted on 04/11/2006 4:56:19 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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Not to worry the illegals won't be charged with anything. IRS is just going after citizens, laws are for citizens, so not to worry the illegals won't be bothered at all by any govt agency or any law enforcement agency,it's cool, relax GOP Chief.

Heck Chief you don't have to worry about passing legislation they are cool they are here they will stay they are collectinng every freebie this country offers, soon they will be moving into mansions, relax chiefs.

They already sent in their votes for every and any election that is and will be happening for years to come, they are happy just chilling, oh and yes they are planning a zillion more demonstrations if that's ok with you all, and hey thanks for all the college vouchers and stuff but we really don't want to speak that silly, what do you call it, english. No thanks we're fine.


19 posted on 04/11/2006 4:57:19 PM PDT by stopem (http://www.liddyshow.com/petition.php)
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I don't care what they do as long as they stop the free health care (via emergency rooms) and the bi-lingual schooling, and the bi-lingual ballots.

They must also make it a requirement for either a guest worker visa or for a green card that you MUST speak english.

20 posted on 04/11/2006 5:00:24 PM PDT by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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