Who's buried in John Paul Jones' crypt at the Naval Academy? This isn't a trick question.

Home Town Annapolis ^ | April 16, 2006 | EARL KELLY

[Heyworth]

Depending on the personal 'vision' of the interpreters and their supervisors, you'll get the view they want you to see, rather than the facts so you can form your own opinion.

And you're already backing off your original position that historical interpreters=America bad.

Look, they're interpreters, not lecturers. Their job is to make history "come alive" for tourists. If you want "facts so you can form your own opinion," there are whole libraries out there for you. If you want to take the kids and let them see what it used to look like, you go see a historical interpreter at a historical site. Now, do you have some specific example of an historical interpreter giving an anti-American message, particularly this guy, since he's the one who kicked off your rant?

[Experiment 6-2-6]

Regardless, it's an impressive tomb.

I'd like to think the folks that went over there did the right thing and didn't grab the first Abby Normal they came across..

[hedgetrimmer]

And you're already backing off your original position that historical interpreters=America bad.

No, I'm not. Visit any number of interpretive museums in California and you will see.

Reenactors reenact, interpreters don't.

[Heyworth]

So your position, never having seen this guy apparently, is that because he's an historical interpreter at Annapolis, he's delivering an anti-American message?

[Heyworth]

Reenactors reenact, interpreters don't.

Thanks for the tautology. It's more useful to say that reenactors are people who do it for their own amusement, at special events and with spectators a happy by-product, while interpreters work within an institutional setting and with a more educational focus.

[Junior]

It could. Jones' DNA would have specific markers unique to Scotsmen. If the body has those markers, it could be him and not some frog. If it doesn't have those markers, odds are it ain't him.

[rabidralph]

Correction: I meant Smithsonian mag.

[yawningotter]

Why hasn't anyone said that John Bonham is buried there?

[Old Professer]

[bert]

Who else could it be?

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from 04/18/2006. Thanks robowombat.

In 1899 General Horace Porter, the U.S. Ambassador to France 1897-1905, and a team of researchers started a six- year investigation for the remains of Admiral John Paul Jones. This was a deeply personal search for Porter because in his own words, "I felt a deep sense of humiliation as an American citizen in realizing that our first and most fascinating naval hero had been lying for more than a century in an unknown and forgotten grave..." The team discovered the site of Saint Louis Cemetery's Protestant section and unearthed Jones' lead coffin in 1905. On April 7, 1905, the Jones' remains were positively identified during a post-mortem examination. The research team determined that the mummified body belonged to a man who was between 40 and 50 years old, and was about 5'7" inches tall, all of which was consistent with Jones at the time of his death. The body was clothed in a linen shirt, and his long brown hair, about 30 inches long, was covered in a linen cap that was monogrammed with the letters "J" and "P."

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[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Maryland “Freak State” PING!

[robowombat]

Wow,that is a blast from the past. Twelve years ago. I thought something seemed familiar about the material.

JPJ reputedly said “Give me a fast ship as I intend to go in harm’s way “

The last SecNav Ray Mabry said bring
me ships to fill with queers,trannies and feminazis.

[wardaddy]

I didn’t know Led Zepplin bassist had died

Yep...he was given No Quarter after being Trampled under Foot at The Epic Battle of Evermore but they spared his loyal companion the Black Dog

His Dancing Days are gone forever

It’s a real Heartbreaker

Guess his soul will just have to Ramble On and he never got to chase Moby Dick with his new ships command which he was unable to Bring it Own Home

The funeral Celebration Day was held Down by the Seaside and his favorite dessert Custard Pie was served

It was definitely a Good Times Bad Times for the old Rover

After a lifetime of ribald and notorious behavior as a seaman he escaped the Gallows Pole that always haunted him and finally found his .....drum roll....Stairway to Heaven

(Corny but fun )

[the OlLine Rebel]

Dreadnought was the British term, driven by the name of the first such. So yes and no, as the term battleship already existed, but the Dreadnought was a big change in approach. Eventually the more general term won out again as the “new” approach became the norm.

[Rebelbase]

What happened to the French burying Jones in a copper coffin filled with alcohol and the US search for his grave in 1906 revealing a copper coffin filled with alcohol?

[beaversmom]

Did you make that up?

[beaversmom]

PS...Hope you are recovering well.

[wardaddy]

Yes

Late night stents brain at work

[SunkenCiv]

This topic was posted 4/18/2006, thanks again robowombat. Updating, not pinging.

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