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The 'Fair Tax'
American Chronicle ^ | April 17, 2006 | Congressman John Linder

Posted on 04/18/2006 10:26:47 AM PDT by Eaglewatcher

In Congress today is a tax reform bill called “The FairTax.” I want to tell you a little about it and then tell you why it is important for the immigration debate. The FairTax would institute a national retail sales tax and eliminate the personal income tax, the payroll tax, and the taxes hidden in business but paid by the consumer. It replaces all of these taxes with a 23% tax on personal consumption, meaning that out of every dollar spent by consumers, 23 cents will go to the tax man and 77 cents will go to the merchant. This will eliminate the IRS from the lives of Americans as well as the billions upon billions wasted on income tax compliance by both businesses and individuals. It will ensure that the American worker keeps his or her full paycheck, free of the large deductions made by government today. And finally, it will speak to the illegal immigration issue that plagues us today in two key ways.

We are a nation of laws and responsibilities. Two of these responsibilities are paying taxes and obeying the law. There may be many sides to the immigration debate, but there can be no debate about two things: we are a nation of laws and responsibilities, and illegal immigrants are not following these laws and fulfilling their responsibilities. They are not paying their taxes, and they are overwhelming our taxpayer-funded public services.

First, in a FairTax world, taxes will be paid when any good or service is purchased by any consumer. This will ensure that we all pay our fair share. If you buy a Mercedes, you’ll pay large Mercedes-style taxes (23% of a Mercedes will be a bundle). If you buy a small Chevy, you’ll pay small Chevy style taxes (23% of a Chevy will be much less). But you will in fact pay. Whether you are an American citizen, an illegal immigrant, or a legal visitor to our shores, you will pay when you go to the check-out counter. And when I stand at the check-out counter with you, I will know that you are paying your fair share, and you will know that I am paying mine.

America stands for the proposition that an individual can change his circumstances through hard work and savings. While today’s tax code encourages consumption over savings, and punishes the up-and-comer by taking more of every additional dollar the individual earns, the FairTax encourages savings and hard-work. In a FairTax world, we continue to have compassion for those who are down and out. Through the use of a prebate (a rebate that comes even before the money is spent), the FairTax ensures that all individuals live tax-free up to the poverty level, guaranteeing that those who are down can use all of their resources to come back up again.

The second way that the FairTax speaks to immigration is the prebate. In order to receive the prebate, you must be a legal resident in the US. Through the use of Social Security numbers, we will ensure that only those individuals who are in this country legally receive a prebate. This means that illegal immigrants will pay more in taxes with every purchase they make. Given the added drain that an illegal immigrant imposes on the country, Americans won’t mind them paying a little extra. Again, the FairTax ensures that everyone—legal or illegal—pays their fair share with every purchase they make.

Taxes and illegal immigration, there is a better way to do the former, and it will certainly impact the latter. Join me to support legal immigration, to support everyone paying their fair share, and to support the American worker getting a fair shake. Join me to support the FairTax.

Congressman John Linder represents Georgia's Seventh District, which includes parts of Bartow, Cherokee, Forsyth, Gwinnett and Paulding Counties. A former dentist and businessman, John came to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1992 and has served in a number of leadership roles during this time.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
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Good point Congressman!
1 posted on 04/18/2006 10:26:49 AM PDT by Eaglewatcher
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To: Eaglewatcher; pigdog

I miss CHIEF_Negotiator.


2 posted on 04/18/2006 10:28:39 AM PDT by annalex
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To: Eaglewatcher

I just posted this in another fair tax thread, but it bears repeating.

23% is way, way too high. Add that to the 8%+ that some states steal in sales tax plus the state level income taxes, property taxes and other nonsense fees and you'll pull the typical American into a 35% overall tax bracket.

If the 23% were it then I'd be okay, but it's just the Federal portion!

15% tops to start and then lower it as government gets cut up and parted out.

Then you can count me as a supporter.


3 posted on 04/18/2006 10:33:16 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Filo

EXACTLY!! I have been saying this for awhile!

It sounds great until you stop to think that its not the "only" tax we will be paying!

When you also consider that the state and federal government can raise these percentages at any time to whatever they want I think that we are in great danger.

For instance, After reading the fair tax book I came away believing that there was alot to it that would work but I kept thinking..."why would anyone buy something new when you could buy used and not pay sales tax?"
A new car would have this huge sales tax attached to it but a used one none. Same with everything! Even with more in my paycheck i'm still going to be budgeting because all in all its not a decrease, they are just shifting the burden. Therefore I will most likely never get to have nice new things because i won't be able to afford the taxes and settle for someones hand me downs.


4 posted on 04/18/2006 10:40:52 AM PDT by annelizly
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To: Filo
23% is way, way too high.

They actually add 30% sales tax. 23% is what they call an 'inclusive tax rate'. On a $100 item, they add $30 of tax. They come up with 23% by dividing the $30 tax by final cost $130. It's FairTax Deception 101.

5 posted on 04/18/2006 10:41:24 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Filo
As spelled out in the bill, the rate is 29.87%.

So a item priced at $100.00 would cost you $129.87 plus applicable state and local sales taxes.

And that tax applies to items that weren't previously taxed, like food, prescription medicine, and rent.

What are you going to do when your rent goes up 30% on day one of the Federal FraudTax?

6 posted on 04/18/2006 10:41:57 AM PDT by balrog666 (There is no freedom like knowledge, no slavery like ignorance. - Ali ibn Ali-Talib)
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To: Filo

23% is way, way too high...



Ummmmm .... you are paying that now ... because the prices of the goods you buy include the impact of the income taxes, FICA taxes, and Medicare taxes.

The Fairtax just makes it visible.

If you want to reduce it ... support the Fairtax to make it visible, and then you might be able to convince people to "... lower it as the government gets cut up and parted out".


7 posted on 04/18/2006 10:42:36 AM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: Filo
... and you'll pull the typical American into a 35% overall tax bracket.

Do you spend every penny of your income on goods? Since I spend much less than 10% of my income on goods, then that 23% would be equivalent to less than a 2.3% income tax, not 23%. That means instead of the > 50% total tax burden I shoulder now, it would be about 35% (or less if state income taxes go away) which would be a lot better!! Think about it...

8 posted on 04/18/2006 10:43:40 AM PDT by LambSlave (The truth will set you free)
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To: balrog666

"And that tax applies to items that weren't previously taxed, like food, prescription medicine, and rent"

Don't forget that the Fairy Tax would be on all services too, like doctors visits, attorney fees, auto repairs (parts and labor), and.....................


9 posted on 04/18/2006 10:46:47 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Vote Constipation Party....Waste your vote and elect RATS in one fell swoop)
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To: Always Right
Your point is well taken, but nonetheless moot.

Neither FairTax nor Flat Tax, or any other meaningful tax reform, will occur in either of our lifetimes. This is just populist drivel for the sheeple.

The current tax industry and its benefactors are far too entrenched and powerful to allow such sweeping change.

10 posted on 04/18/2006 10:47:43 AM PDT by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: Always Right

Agree with you but on any $100 item you're probably paying $23 in hidden taxes that are being passed on to the consumer now.


11 posted on 04/18/2006 10:48:07 AM PDT by hubbubhubbub
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To: liberty_lvr

Congress doesn't write tax law, lobbyists that pad congresscritters' wallets do!


12 posted on 04/18/2006 10:49:24 AM PDT by hubbubhubbub
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To: Filo

I agree - 23% is too high.

The reason that the FairTax is set up that way is to make it "revenue neutral." I don't want "revenue neutral" I want less government spending and lower taxes.

I support the FairTax in principle but would not want to see it go into effect until the income tax amendment is eliminated first, spending is cut and the tax rate is reduced.


13 posted on 04/18/2006 10:50:18 AM PDT by ejroth
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To: hubbubhubbub
Agree with you but on any $100 item you're probably paying $23 in hidden taxes that are being passed on to the consumer now.

Yes and no. The fairtax researcher who came up with that number did so by including taxes paid by the employees. Yes if you take all those taxes out, there might be 23% worth. But are employees going to take a pay cut? Are owners going to want to make less? No. Taking out income taxes paid directly by the employee, there is only about 7-8% hidden taxes.

14 posted on 04/18/2006 10:51:56 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: liberty_lvr

Well, by all means, do nothing then.


15 posted on 04/18/2006 10:53:01 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Eaglewatcher

The Fair Tax would indeed get people who are not paying income taxes to pay tax.

Also, remember that if the Fair Tax replaces the income tax, we will be buying EVERYTHING with pre-tax dollars. We'll have more money to start with, if there's no withholding.

I do tend to agree, though, that there are issues to work out, and that we don't have the political will to pass it in any event.


16 posted on 04/18/2006 10:54:25 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Always Right

The fairy tax should be renamed the "Shift 100% of all taxes to the consumer" tax.


17 posted on 04/18/2006 10:56:36 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Vote Constipation Party....Waste your vote and elect RATS in one fell swoop)
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To: Eaglewatcher

I'm completely baffled at the lack of comprehension and understanding of 'Fair Tax' on the part of some freepers. If you actually think you will spend more on taxes with the fair tax, you are completely ignorant. The amount of tax you pay would drop significantly, and the federal governments revenue will actually increase as well, just as the congressman put it. Illegal immigrants will now be forced to commit to our federal tax, and as well as tourist visiting. Anyone who can honestly disagree with fair tax, needs to read the book before blasting the same hype from the nay-sayers in Washington who are afraid of losing more power.


18 posted on 04/18/2006 11:00:17 AM PDT by Element187
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To: hubbubhubbub
Agree with you but on any $100 item you're probably paying $23 in hidden taxes that are being passed on to the consumer now.

Bingo... goods, services and products will drop in price, as their is no more tax man in the middle putting his paws in it.
19 posted on 04/18/2006 11:02:08 AM PDT by Element187
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To: annalex

I think most of us do. He was a fine person. Perhaps the FairTax should be named the "CHIEF negotiator memorial FairTax bill" (or something like that).

I wonder how you say that in Cherokee? CHIEF always said he was part Cheokee and would throw in some Cherokee words from time to time.


20 posted on 04/18/2006 11:03:06 AM PDT by pigdog
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