Posted on 04/21/2006 4:39:40 PM PDT by blam
Thanks for the explaination. European history is not my turf. I'm an American History nut; that is, from the Civil War through Western expansion. Never could get into the European stuff except for WWII.
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I meant is there a written record of a sixth century impact by a comet to go with the records of crop failures, etc? Since it seems as if a comet impact would be pretty dramatic.
Thanks for the link in post 20.
I forgot, lol. See the link in post #24. Thanks Mike.
Comet, volcano ... something disruptive clearly occurred.
Thanks, my question is pretty well answered now. Those are fascinating links. More things to worry about! I'm gonna go get some more ammo, I guess ;-)
LOL. I have loads left over from Y2K.
1908 Tunguska. Apart from seismic stations registering the shockwave, the only observations were from local inhabitants. Similar event in isolated region in 6th century, would there be any records?
I agree. It may well not have been directly witnessed, or if it was, there wouldn't have been words to describe it.
OK, it looks like I'm becoming a believer.
Is this thread prompted by the comet shards coming by earth in a month or so? Supposedly it will all miss, but some by less. Somebody on the overnight radio said something like three chunks could hit earth, although the rest of the 17 pieces are strung out and would have to miss because of orbital geometry.
at that point in time i think in northern modern france you would have had a romano-gallic culture (speaking latin) being heavily repopulated by german tribes. While provincial romance did survive as the language, there is some speculation that the unusual vowel and consonant structure of french in north-western france (including paris) is related to moderately heavy germanic immigration in the late roman period and its impact on the spoken dialects of the language. It is unquestionable that french in that part of the country diverges in pronunciation patterns from romanish languages in portugal, spain, italy, romanish west switzerland, and southern france in some notable ways.
Last I heard, Arthur was fictional""
Alot of people believe he was real.
I tend to sway toward real. Too much reference in stories, etc, to not have been. Too many actual historical places referenced...
Well theyre teaching in public school british lit classes he was real, so it MUST be true. /sarc
Londoners reported being able to read newspapers at midnight for a couple days.
"Try this blam oldie but goodie."
It would seem that both volcanos and boloids can cause major earth distress. This is one reason why IMHO we really should make a conscientious effort not to overpopulate the earth. When bad sh** happens people mega-die. I have been studying this whole world disaster issue for a while, read Winchester's book Krakatoa (a good read, although I disagree with his 535 conclusion), and "Impact Earth: Asteroids, Comets and Meteoroids: the Growing Threat", by Austen Atkinson, and a number of others.
Regarding Krakatoa, Winchester quotes a prolific but somewhat questionable source who describes a great volcanic event in AD 416, which Winchester thinks was probably Krakatoa. Is there any correlation with this event and the movement of the West Goths in 417 and 419, and the Vandals in 420 who crossed the Pyrennes and moved across Spain to cross into North Africa in 427? With reference to 535, Winchester, without any historic record of a huge volcanic event conjectures that there was one because of the severe breakdown in civic society and lack of court records. This, of course, could just as easily have been cause by a major boloid event as recorded worldwide by tree rings, and not by evidence of the right kind of ash in Greenland ice cores.
Regarding the year 1628 BC, this correlates well with the destruction of Thera/Santorini. An event that I am trying to find more about is the 1500 BC, plus or minus 50 years major eruption of Mt. Etna. A huge bowl called the Valle de Bove was scouped out of the side of the mountain by this event. I wish I could narrow down the date.
The Tungusku boloid of 1908 is well known, but hardly anyone knows that in May 1931, a major boloid exploded over Brazil's Amazon forest, with the strength of 4-8 Hiroshima-sized atomic bombs, destroying 1,300 sq. K of forest. Only the presence of an educated Catholic priest kept the forest tribe whose world was decimated from committing suicide to appease the angry sky gods.
Magnus Aurelius Cassiodorus, who was mentioned in another comment, was one of Rome's leading historians and essayists. About 534-536 he wrote "...who will not be disturbed, and deeply curious...if something mysterious and unusual seems to be coming on us from the stars? He continues, "How strange it is, I ask you, to see the principal star (the sun), and not its usual brightness; to gaze on the moon...shorn of its natural splendour? All of us are still observing...a blue-coloured sun...we marvel at bodies that cast no midday shadow...and this has not happened in the momentary loss of an eclipse, but has been going on equally through almost the entire year...whence can we hope for mild weather, when the months that once ripened the crops have been deadly sick under the northern blasts? For what will give fertility, if the soil does not grow warm in summer?" This paragraph and the one above it are both from "Impact Earth."
In 1783, Iceland experience a great effusion of Lava from the Laki Fissure. The resulting ash and fluorine gas destroyed 90% of the livestock and starved one fifth of the population. In europe a blue fog was experience for months and crops failed. Banjamin Franklin, who was our ambassador in Europe, commented on this at the time and attributed the problems in Europe to the Iceland event. In 1815 the great explosion of Tambora caused the "year with no summer" which was well recorded in several New England states, causing widespread crop failure.
So it would appear that both volano and boloid can really mess up ones day. Since both are quite unpredictable, it pays to be prepared.
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No. I've been telling everyone I'm stocking up for the hurricane season, war with Iran and Bird Flu. I'm ready for the May 25th impact too though.
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