Just heard Rep. Dan Burton on CSPAN say WMD found in Iraq

C-Span ^ | 25 April 06 | None

[Tarantulas]

The BBC article is also from 2004.

[Peach]

I've had my hopes dashed so often, I'm almost afraid to hope again so I know just what you mean.

[ChessExpert]

"the WND piece is a repost from 2004!"

??

Can you give the original link?

I wouldn't be surprised if old information merely requires summation and marketing. Often the libs win the repetition (propaganda) war, when they do not have the facts on their side.

[ChessExpert]

"The BBC article is also from 2004."

The WND link carries today's date.

But who cares about the date? It's the facts we should be interested in. We know Saddam had plenty of time to move, hide, or destroy WMDs. Not finding WMDs proves nothing. Finding big, dramatic stockpiles would be nice. How much do we have to find in order to pass a "found" threshold? It depends on who's President. If Kerry were President, I think the MSM consensus would be that they've been found many times over.

[RasterMaster]

WMDs in Iraq is OLD NEWS! They were found from the beginning...just the Al Queda media chose to lie about it.

[JewishRighter]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213

[Tarantulas]

The links are in post 27. They are both from 2004, but the topic here is an announcement that was made tonight about chemical weapon cannisters being discovered. The date matters.

[P-40]

www.9-11commission.gov
Page 128

The original sealed indictment had added that al Qaeda had “reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.”109This passage led Clarke, who for years had read intelligence reports on Iraqi-Sudanese cooperation on chemical weapons, to speculate to Berger that a large Iraqi presence at chemical facilities in Khartoum was “probably a direct result of the Iraq–Al Qida agreement.” Clarke added that VX precursor traces found near al Shifa were the “exact formula used by Iraq.”110This language about al Qaeda’s “understanding” with Iraq had been dropped, however, when a superseding indictment was filed in November 1998.111

[ChessExpert]

"The links are in post 27. They are both from 2004,"

O.K.

"but the topic here is an announcement that was made tonight about chemical weapon cannisters being discovered."

I hope to hear more. Thanks.

[RandallFlagg]

RandallFlagg: WMDs = Cheese ^


Heh-heh-heh!

[ChessExpert]

Thanks Randall. There is a lot to your excellent post. But here's one quote that I have to share:

"The WMDs would have taken the space of an area of about a 2-car garage. Broken apart, they'd be even smaller. Rush Limbaugh quoted some fact about botulinum toxin: "One thimble can kill one million people. Saddam had 18,000 litres of it. Enough to kill the current population of the world -THREE TIMES."

[RandallFlagg]

Yep! I can still quote that, word-for-word, on command.

[carl in alaska]

I agree that the administration needs to release a lot more information about what WMD and weapons labs we found in Iraq. At this point in time, the biggest mistake the Bush Adminstration has made is the statement by David Kaye when he said "we got it all wrong" (about Iraqi WMD programs). That statement, blaming the CIA for the lack of WMD discovered in Iraq, may have been a fairly good tactic to win the 2004 election but I think it was a strategic blunder. That one sentence, and the rest of the report, have greatly undermined public support for the WOT. Whoever approved that statement, which I doubt is really correct, made a major mistake in my view.

At this point, Bush needs to start undoing the damage from that Kaye report and release as much information as possible about WMD discoveries, however modest in amount, and talk about the extreme lethality of these weapons. We also need to take the media to see some of Saddam's weapons labs, even if those labs were built by our European allies. We need our allies for sure but we also need public support for the WOT, which has slipped badly because of the lack of evidence presented for WMD, weapons labs, and nuclear weapons labs.

[ChessExpert]

Sounds good to me! Thanks.

[carl in alaska]

Thanks, I'm still amazed at the major strategic error known as the Kaye Report and Kaye's testimony. What a cluster f***.

[carl in alaska]

I don't enjoy saying this, but I think this was a case of the old Washington arrogance that exists in both parties. They believe they can do what they think is best for the country (as we also see in lax border security), and then sell any policy to the American people. I think our foreign policy wonks want to keep the lid on the WMD evidence because it's embarassing to our European allies and perhaps embarassing to some people in previous US administrations. But this story isn't selling to the American public any more now that the casualties and financial cost have become big numbers. We need to see more hard evidence of WMD programs.

[Allegra]

I just know I'm ging to grow a third arm, or an eye in the middle of my forehead or something like that after I get home...

[nutmeg]

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[sono]

Ok the BBC article really isn't news ... this operation had been ongoing, with periodic protests from IAEA over turf, etc. The WorldNetDaily article is interesting, but Farah's track record has been Debka-esque and so this source needs corroboration.