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And they say that this is their land? Obviously they don't know very much about the history of their country.
1 posted on 05/02/2006 3:48:36 PM PDT by persephone35
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ping for future reading


2 posted on 05/02/2006 3:52:15 PM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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And they say that this is their land? Obviously they don't know very much about the history of their country.

Nor do the professors on American campuses teaching them that "history" about how their land was "stolen". Talk about subversive professors....

3 posted on 05/02/2006 3:55:04 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Liberals: Working for the conquest of America since VietNam.)
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There is also this to consider:


4 posted on 05/02/2006 3:56:49 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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The first Mexican-American war showed that you cannot keep land you cannot defend.

Learn from history!

5 posted on 05/02/2006 3:57:28 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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ping ping


6 posted on 05/02/2006 3:57:29 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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Hypothetically... let's give it back. Then what? It becomes part of Mexico and they no longer get the bennies associated with being in the U.S.

Not real deep thinkers, are they?


7 posted on 05/02/2006 3:58:44 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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Thanks for posting this, though KCET is Los Angeles' left leaning PBS station. This seemed a pretty reportorial account of aspects of the conflict. What would be more interesting would be an account of how the area in question was "governed" by those who took it first from the native Indians. The native Indians did not appreciate Mexican/Spanish rule. The Mexicans did not have the ability to administer the area nor to maintain order. Geronimo, jailed by the Mexican government, earned part of his reputation "dissing" Mexican authority. Mexico couldn't develop a decent government then and it can't do so now within Mexico's current borders.


8 posted on 05/02/2006 3:58:49 PM PDT by Draco
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It's their land!


9 posted on 05/02/2006 3:58:49 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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Mexico stole it from the American Indians. We bought it from Mexico.


10 posted on 05/02/2006 4:01:19 PM PDT by VOATNOW1
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Didn't the then, "Spanish" and now "Mexicans" commit genocide against the indigenous Incas and recolonize their sacred lands?
11 posted on 05/02/2006 4:01:30 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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You forgot Texas. Obviously these people are disavowing what Santa Ana did at the battle of San Jacinto when he signed over Texas to Sam Houston.


14 posted on 05/02/2006 4:06:44 PM PDT by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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Mexico in the 1840's was a new country whose legitimacy, and hold on lands it claimed in the north was tenuous and not entirely legitimate. The United States cleverly took advantage of that situation.


15 posted on 05/02/2006 4:07:19 PM PDT by rimmont
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Some critics predicted that the "impenetrable mountains and dry narrow valleys" of California and the "trackless, treeless…and utterly uninhabitable" New Mexico — would prove useless, threatening the nation's frontier settlements and draining the national treasury. Some believed that Mexico rid itself of worthless land and received $15 million from the U.S. for the sacrifice.

This is fascinating but not very useful to refute the argument of the illiterate invaders among us. More useful would be research into what the newspapers and government of Mexico were saying at the time, both privately and publicly.

I won't hold my breath, since I suspect that the only existing legitimate government in Mexico which could legitimize the final settlement of the war were laughing all the way to the bank...

Analyzing an event 150 years old by today's Political Correctness is naive at best, fraudulent at worst.

So... no, it's not really their land.
They can only understand force; the force of numbers, in their case. I would caution them to not push it.

23 posted on 05/02/2006 4:16:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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And they say that this is their land? Obviously they don't know very much about anything the history of their country.

There, fixed.

30 posted on 05/02/2006 4:23:10 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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If you get out a map and look even half heartedly, you will see that most of Arizona is soverign Indian land.

Extremely large sections of Arizona will hve to be taken from the Indians if they want to Mexicanize it.


The solution is to invade and recapture all of Mexico. Winfield Scott and Robert E Lee did it once in the 1840's and we should send Tommy Franks to do it again.

We can then sort it all out with Mexico as a territory.


31 posted on 05/02/2006 4:25:45 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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It's obvious they know nothing about history. Some think they are like the Jews in 1938 Nazi Germany.


44 posted on 05/02/2006 4:41:21 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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Spain stuck a flag in N American and tried to claim the Continent... then Mexico think it all there... (by the same logic the US own the whole Moon... and maybe some day all of Mars)... Well the US didn't get all the UK N American claim else we have Canada or a a good chuck of it (remember 54'40" or fight...we settled for the 49' parallel)...


47 posted on 05/02/2006 4:55:21 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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And .. quite obviously they have been lied to for years.


58 posted on 05/02/2006 5:20:15 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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mexicans are stupid...due to their own crappy country and our America...once Americans have established her to a point a person can live half way decently...now mexicans think it's theirs....what a big old pack of losers.

We paid mexico 15 million for it, when we paid mexico 15 million that was a huge huge sum of money and mexico was thrilled to receive those monies.

YOU CAN'T REWRITE HISTORY....it's past and there for all to see...

96 posted on 05/03/2006 2:48:19 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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