8mm
Posted on 05/02/2006 5:41:33 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
The Florida judge who presided over the Terri Schiavo case and ruled her feeding tube should be removed told a bioethics symposium that lawmakers are ill-equipped to make right-to-die decisions.
Pinellas County Circuit Judge George W. Greer, in brief remarks at the University of Pennsylvania on Monday, said that 30 state and federal judges painstakingly reviewed the many volumes of testimony and evidence submitted in the divisive case.
But state lawmakers who passed "Terri's Law" to have the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube reinserted did so with "little to no debate" and with "significant arm-twisting," he said.
"Do you want that process ... or do you want a deliberative, court evidence-driven process where it can be reviewed?" Greer asked.
A spokesman for Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said the legislation went through two days of debate - more than any other bill during that legislative session.
"The Florida Legislature is an independent body and Terri's Law went through a very deliberative process," Russell Schweiss said Tuesday.
Schiavo died March 31, 2005 - 13 days after the final removal of her feeding tube. Her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, fought her husband, Michael Schiavo, in court for seven years to keep the tube from being removed.
Greer first ruled in 2000 that Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive artificially. In all, Greer ordered the removal of her feeding tube three times.
In 2003, Florida lawmakers passed "Terri's Law," which was ultimately rejected as unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court. Days after Schiavo's tube was removed in March 2005, Congress approved a measure allowing it to be reconnected while a federal court reviewed the case. Despite the legislation, courts refused to intervene when asked by state lawmakers, Gov. Bush, Congress and President Bush.
Michael Schiavo, who on Sunday told the bioethics gathering that outsiders have no right to intervene in such medical decisions, was in the audience at Monday's panel discussion but did not speak.
A group of about 10 protesters in front of the symposium building carried signs featuring large photographs of Terri Schiavo and criticizing Greer's court order to remove her feeding tube.
Organizers of the conference said that several lawmakers, whom they did not identify, were invited to attend Monday's symposium but declined.
Greer is an evil man with an evil agenda!
If he was really interested in evidence, he would have gone to see her. Instead he was interested in letting his chum scum Felos get away with murder.
Maybe our new justices will milk a little of the pomposity out of these self important jerks and put law making back into the hands of the citizens. It seems the judicary is hell bent on force feeding us their morals or lack thereof.
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So this killer in black robes wants only judges who are focused on "process" to be the sole arbiters of the legal/legislative issues associated with matters of life and death, especially as relates to innocent persons? Well, if anyone must decide such things, I'm inclined to let the elected representatives of the people have their say, rather than any judicial Star Chamber.
What makes Judge Greer think he has superior knowledge than lawmakers? Judges aren't necessarily smart people...some are appointed and some elected such as Judge Greer. That does not mean he has superior intellect! Jimmy Carter was elected President and Al Gore a U.S. Senator, and neither of them have exhibited much, if any, intelligence! Furthermore, Judge Greer is legally blind, so who reads the briefs for him?
we just gotta learn our place, is all.....we just gotta learn that these "important" people know what's best for us....
Geez when are you nitwits going to let this whole subject go?
Newsflash: You dupes help to start the string of trumped up media shaped defeats for Conservatives. If half you idiots whined about Abortion as much as you did about Terry Schiavo we could've ended abortion in a nanosecond.
What a bunch of busy-bodied tools [of the left].
I don't know if you've noticed, but it's Greer who has decided to opine on this. Moreover, Michael (after using Terri's gravestone to gloat) is on a speaking tour.
Who, exactly, is not letting it go?
Besides, Terri had too many body thetans anyway.
Did Greer post it?
They won [anyone with half a brain could've fore-casted it the minute this crap started] and in the process needled enough dimwitted, slackjawed "little c" conservatives to get more and more of you to go for the rope-a-dope and make the rest of us look like we dont know what the hell we're doing.
This should be a Red flagged, radioactive subject [because it only serves a Liberal agenda].
I do not care what they do or say at this point, you lost & got played...walk away already.
So, we should apply your philosophy to all things? Taxes? They won, so just raise them.
The fact is, the ghoulish nature of Michael S., Greer and especially Felos should be revealed for what it is.
This was a textbook example of two major issues: (1) Judicial overreach and (2) the fact that assisted suicide is more assisted than suicide.
While people got hung up with the fact that if Terri weren't starved to death (euphoria, donchaknow) then they wouldn't be able to off 90-year-old grandma when she got to be too much trouble, this very case highlighted the worst of both of the above issues.
Somebody was willing to bear the burden of Terri's care and the judge would not let them. He declared that Michael's 11th-hour recollection of Terri's wish to die was a fact.
And, of course, there's the role of Xenu in all of this.
The Apostle Paul must have forseen Greer's type of judge when he wrote 1 Timothy 4:2: "Speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared with a hot iron."
Square up on the next example of Judicial overreach.
Why? We lost. Judicial overreach won, so it is right. To fight against it is just to make the conservative movement look bad.
Keep in mind the absurdity of what happened. A judge. Made an order. That forbade people. From giving a person. Water.
Water.
A judge. A probate judge.
A judge who accepted heresay evidence as fact.
If this case were on TV, Michael Schiavo would be running into Lt. Columbo everywhere he went.
And we cannot forget the alien influences in all of this.
Everybody should read Dean Koontz's "One Door Away From Heaven". It deals with "bioethics" and the evil that is involved with it. Koontz is a known conservative author and his books are great.
[Tedious]
Well, let me know when your OCD/Bitterness gets anything done about it.
"Pinellas County Circuit Judge George W. Greer, in brief remarks at the University of Pennsylvania on Monday, said that 30 state and federal judges painstakingly reviewed the many volumes of testimony and evidence submitted in the divisive case. "
Fact check.
The only "review" done on the case was done in Greer's courtroom. All other judges took a "pass" without review.
That is why congress tried to get another full review to take place.
It isn't too much to ask for another review in a life vs. death case when death row criminals get multiple reviews all the time.
Of course Greer knows that 30 different judges did not actually review the case - he is pushing propoganda here.
Pls do your thing, 8mmmauser. Thanks, FV
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