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I like this theory. Donno why, but I like it.
1 posted on 05/04/2006 12:02:21 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 05/04/2006 12:03:30 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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"we live in a preposterous universe", says cosmologist Sean Carroll....



You wonder, then, why scientists have such a problem with religion. Why is one brand of incredulity better than another?


3 posted on 05/04/2006 12:06:42 PM PDT by Brilliant
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I like this theory. Donno why, but I like it.

I lack the Ph.D level mathematics skill needed to understand modern theories about cosmology in any real way. Any language short of high-level mathematics is going to have trouble expressing the basis for these concepts.
4 posted on 05/04/2006 12:07:21 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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So, the universe is like Swiss cheese?..........


6 posted on 05/04/2006 12:10:18 PM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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Steinhardt and Turok say that their idea is testable. The cyclic model predicts that the Big Bang induces gravity waves in space, which physicists are now hunting for. And the decay of the vacuum energy predicts new types of fundamental particles called axions, which may also be detectable.

Big Science at its best! This is very interesting as it stands, I'm keen to see how the axion hunt goes!

7 posted on 05/04/2006 12:13:17 PM PDT by ToryHeartland ("The universe shares in God’s own creativity." - Rev. G.V.Coyne)
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"we live in a preposterous universe", says cosmologist Sean Carroll

After that verdict yesterday, who can argue?

8 posted on 05/04/2006 12:14:44 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Como se llama, bonita, mi casa, su casa)
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the bouncing ball theory (or, at least, hypothesis) has been around my whole life.

I keep wondering whether there's any evidence supporting the possibility that this sidereal reality is actually a composite of multiple contemporary or overlapping matter-energy eruptions at different loci.


13 posted on 05/04/2006 12:21:21 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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I dimly recall reading this many years ago, perhaps as early as the 60s.
It was referred to as the oscillating Universe and was another alternative to the "Big Bang".

Bottom line, it's not new and, still, no one has a clue.

20 posted on 05/04/2006 12:30:05 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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They have seized on an idea first proposed by physicist Larry Abbott in 1985: that maybe the vacuum energy was once big but has declined to ever smaller values.

Maybe I shouldn't have invested in this.

23 posted on 05/04/2006 12:32:53 PM PDT by OSHA (Liberal Utopia: When they shoot people going over the wall.)
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Any theory of cosmology that doesn't predict the the magic number Nv = 72, (where Nv = number of Allah's virgins), is incomplete.


33 posted on 05/04/2006 12:48:14 PM PDT by hang 'em (Fine and jail the employers and illegals will self- deport.)
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Basically, this question comes down to whether or not there is enough mass in the universe for gravity to reverse the expansion ofg the big bang.


34 posted on 05/04/2006 12:48:30 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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Trying to figure out the origins of the universe is like sweeping a dirt floor.


36 posted on 05/04/2006 12:56:17 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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There used to be the Strong Anthropic Principle and the Weak Anthropic Principle.

The Strong Anthropic Principle said that the universe appeared to be designed for life because it was designed.

The Weak Anthropic Principle said that the universe appeared appeared to be designed for life because it was the only way that life could have appeared.

There used to be a reason that the one was named 'Strong' and the other 'Weak'.

Now however, the revisionists have dropped the 'Strong' principle and only the 'Weak' principle remains, without the 'weak', of course.

That's so you won't think outside the box you are given so quickly (The Weak Anthropic Principle).


40 posted on 05/04/2006 1:14:48 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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Setterfield explains why a misinterpretation of redshift data leads astronomers to propose 'dark energy' and an 'increasing expansion'.

http://www.setterfield.org/AstronomicalDiscussion.htm#missingmass


43 posted on 05/04/2006 1:25:21 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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But it still does not explain how or why Venus rotates in a different direction than the rest of the planets in our solar system rotate. We cannot explain a creation without a creator...but it appears we keep trying!


45 posted on 05/04/2006 1:26:46 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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The observed vacuum energy, in contrast, is smaller by a factor of 10120 - 1 followed by 120 zeros.

10,120 isn't that big a number really. The IRS might disagree, of course.

47 posted on 05/04/2006 1:31:13 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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"cyclic model of the Universe, it expands and contracts repeatedly over timescales that make the 13.7 billion years that have passed since the Big Bang seem a mere blink."

This is not what makes time seem like a mere blink.

Time seeming short is due to the lifespan of man.


49 posted on 05/04/2006 1:34:20 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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As Clayton Williams once said; Just lay back and enjoy the ride.


56 posted on 05/04/2006 1:54:28 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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Wouldn't a yo-yo universe violate the second law of thermodynamics? Basically, you'd have to figure that either the expanded or the contracted state would represent the state of max entropy, and there the whole deal would stay.


57 posted on 05/04/2006 1:56:22 PM PDT by tomzz
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Steinhardt and Turok say that their idea is testable

They always say that. Of course it is testable, so is gravitational blue-shift. If nothing else we can wait and see what happens.

63 posted on 05/04/2006 2:06:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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