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To: ansel12
People can argue all night long about Arnold, but one thing that is inarguable is that without Arnold we could not have taken the governors seat from Gray Davis in a recall.

Nonsense. Here is the last USA Today/CNN/GALLUP poll before the recall.

"6. If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"

September 25-27
Registered Voters

McClintock 49%
Bustamante 42%

Probable Voters

McClintock 56%
Bustamante 37%

Despite having the second lowest Republican registration of any senate Republican seat up for election this year, McClintock's campaign ran more than 19 points ahead of party registration - the largest margin of any senate Republican:

Candidate Party Votes Percent
* Tom McClintock Republican 226,225 61.0%
Paul Joseph Graber Democratic 144,800 39.0%

So California won't vote conservative? Consider the spate of recent ballot propositions:

Prop 227 English only education in public schools Passed
Prop 209 No more affirmative action in State hiring or education Passed
Prop 22 Heterosexual marriage only Passed
Prop 187 No benefits for illegal aliens Passed

Simon lost to Davis by only 325,000 votes after the most incompetent campaign in history and while being stabbed in the back by his own Party.

Don't give us ‘California is a liberal state’ until you know what you are talking about. The problem is a gerrymandered legislature, not the voters.

“My relationship to power and authority is that I’m all for it,” he once explained. “People need somebody to watch over them.... Ninety-five percent of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave.”

Arnold Schwarzenegger, U.S. News & World Report, Nov 26, 1990

16 posted on 05/06/2006 9:10:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Teh only polls that matter are on election day.

And history PROVES that conservatives CANNOT get elected in CA for statewide office, because they only get the votes of the 34% Republicans, while the remaining 66% votes for the Dem.

You do NOT win elections with 34% of the votes.


21 posted on 05/06/2006 9:24:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Carry_Okie

The voters of California decided to recall governor Gray Davis by a 5 to 4 margin (55.4% in favor of recall vs. 44.6% against recall).

There were more votes for Schwarzenegger than for the next three candidates combined, including fellow Republican McClintock.

There were also more votes for Schwarzenegger than votes against recalling Davis (some were concerned beforehand that Davis' replacement might not reach this level).

Voters elected Arnold Schwarzenegger to become Davis's replacement by a plurality of 48.6% to runner-up Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante's 31.5%.

MC Clintock got 13.5%



prop 209 was in 1996

prop 227 in 1998

prop 187 in 1994

prop 22 homo marriage always loses, every where.


28 posted on 05/06/2006 9:47:51 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Carry_Okie

Thank you. Take care. Lots of "Vichy French" conservatives prowling around for some reason.


33 posted on 05/06/2006 9:57:16 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Carry_Okie
That's a great post, although I do take exception to one thing:

Don't give us ‘California is a liberal state’ until you know what you are talking about. The problem is a gerrymandered legislature, not the voters.

Boxer, Feinstein, Gore, Kerry - - there's a whole lot of goofballs, parasites, and scumbags casting votes in California.

35 posted on 05/06/2006 10:00:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Carry_Okie

""Don't give us ‘California is a liberal state’ until you know what you are talking about.""


where to start with this statement


90 posted on 05/07/2006 3:02:15 PM PDT by georgia2006
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