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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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......< "Once an illegal alien is apprehended, they can request counsel," he said. "We have to give their counsel the information about their apprehension, and that includes where they are apprehended, whether a Minuteman volunteer spotted them or a citizen."

Martinez said Mexico's official perception of the civilian groups is that they are vigilantes, a belief the Border Patrol hoped to allay by entering into the cooperative agreement>........

IT SEEMS BOTH TH US GOVERNMENT AND THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS THE'MINUTEMEN'...'VIGILANTES'.

1 posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:27 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Unbelievable. Now if the Minutemen start building a wall, I suppose the Border Patrol is going to go out with bolt cutters?


2 posted on 05/09/2006 6:23:53 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: IrishMike

This is outrageous! Our government has no business telling foreign governments of U.S. citizens' movements.


3 posted on 05/09/2006 6:23:56 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: IrishMike
This would be like the cops telling burglars what homes are part of a neighborhood watch and what times they are active.

Someone should be fired over this, but, hey, this is the federal government.

4 posted on 05/09/2006 6:24:10 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: IrishMike
a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

The "migrant's" rights? What about America's rights?
5 posted on 05/09/2006 6:24:46 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: IrishMike
Minuteman volunteer spotted them or a citizen.

The Minutemen are not citizens?
6 posted on 05/09/2006 6:25:30 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: IrishMike

Why do we even bother to have laws, our own government act in collusion with illegal aliens and foreign governments against it's own people.

The government refuses to do it's job and when the citizens try to do something the government actively world against them.

Claire, is it soon?


7 posted on 05/09/2006 6:27:41 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (Borders. Language. Culture. AAA-0. Free Travis Mcgee.)
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To: P-40

OYu have the rigth to pay your taxes, shut up and sit down.

This is the government you voted for at work.

Prety sad.


8 posted on 05/09/2006 6:28:15 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Hawk1976

world = works, not enough coffee yet.


9 posted on 05/09/2006 6:28:29 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (Borders. Language. Culture. AAA-0. Free Travis Mcgee.)
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To: IrishMike
"This...simply makes two basic statements--that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type..."

Oh really? Which type of lawlessness are you not allowing?

10 posted on 05/09/2006 6:28:50 AM PDT by Tracy V. (Hell is the impossibility of reason)
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To: IrishMike

People need to be fired or prosecuted over this. This is disgusting.


11 posted on 05/09/2006 6:29:01 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: IrishMike

Is Bush a traitor or what?


12 posted on 05/09/2006 6:30:31 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded Crunchy Con, American Male (NRA))
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To: IrishMike

outrageous...totally and completely outrageous.


13 posted on 05/09/2006 6:30:52 AM PDT by sofaman ("The Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence." Ayn Rand)
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To: IrishMike
the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants --

I'm friggin' speechless.

14 posted on 05/09/2006 6:31:20 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: IrishMike

Geez, we need to weed out the goofy liberal traitors from the border patrol


15 posted on 05/09/2006 6:31:26 AM PDT by irishfox
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that migrants' rights are being observed.

They don't have any rights on this side of the border but a quick deportment. THey are CRIMINALS! Isn't that the way the Mexican gov't looks at invaders in their country?


17 posted on 05/09/2006 6:34:02 AM PDT by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: IrishMike
"We have to give their counsel the information about their apprehension, and that includes where they are apprehended, whether a Minuteman volunteer spotted them or a citizen."
Uh...I believe that is the same. The Minutemen are citizen volunteers.
Many times, we were told not to go out to Minuteman calls.
Well, there you have it. Can't have the citizens helping in this endeavor. This is sickening.
"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."
Simcox is spot on with these comments. Like I said, it is sickening and clear that elements of our own government does not want this problem resolved or assisted by American citizens who are patriotic and trying to help. Begins to make one wonder just exactly what it is that they are afraid of.
18 posted on 05/09/2006 6:35:20 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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"New world order"

19 posted on 05/09/2006 6:36:33 AM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush!)
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To: IrishMike

I'm not surprised.


20 posted on 05/09/2006 6:38:50 AM PDT by JZelle
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