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New-era M14 alleviates reliability issues
Jane's International Defense Review ^ | 10 May 06 | Charles Q Cutshaw

Posted on 05/15/2006 6:01:44 PM PDT by LSUfan

Responding to a US Army Special Operations Command (SOCOM) requirement, Sage International developed a chassis-type stock for M14 rifles that transforms the M14 into a 21st century enhanced tactical carbine. This stock is now being used to modify M14 rifles at Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane, Indiana. The result is the Mk 14, Mod 0 Enhanced Battle Rifle (EBR), which can be obtained by any force that uses M14 rifles either by purchasing the EBR stock and converting existing M14 type rifles or buying a semi-automatic-only version of the Mk 14, Mod 0 from US company Fulton Armory.

The conversion from standard M14 to Mk 14 involves several modifications. First, the M14 barrel has been shortened from 559 mm to 470 mm with the standard M14 flash suppressor replaced by a Smith Enterprises Vortex flash suppressor that reduces flash by approximately 99 per cent. With a 470 mm barrelled carbine, the high-performance Vortex flash suppressor was a virtual necessity. The front sight that once sat atop the flash suppressor has been moved to the gas cylinder lock.

The bolt stop has been replaced by a 'paddle' type similar to that of the M4 Carbine. This allows the bolt to be released without removing the trigger hand from the pistol grip as opposed to the original M14 that required the bolt handle to be pulled to the rear after a fresh magazine was inserted to release the bolt stop. The addition of the bolt release is a major advantage in combat where every second counts, not to mention being more convenient.

Finally, the clip guide on the receiver has been replaced by a 38 mm section of the MIL-STD-1913 rail to allow optics to be mounted, as with our test rifle, along with the Sage EBR stock

(Excerpt) Read more at janes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; ebr; gunporn; m14; rifle; socom
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Not sure what the headline means by "reliability issues" because I have never heard of any reliability problems with the M-14. Sounds like the mods make it handier more than anything else.

But I am glad to see the M14 back. Sensational weapon. I have heard stories of the 5.56mm round from the M16 not being a reliable stopper in Afghanistan and Iraq. I would like to see us go back to the 7.62NATO M14. It is basically a modified M1 Garand, the rifle that fought and won in every clime and place from the Aleutians to Guadalcanal to North Africa and Italy and France. No one ever had much bad to say about the Garand design. I prefer it even to the Kalashnikov.

1 posted on 05/15/2006 6:01:45 PM PDT by LSUfan
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I prefer it even to the Kalashnikov.

I share in your feelings.

An Mk-14 would be the ULTIMATE firearm for either comabt, plain 'ole shooting or even hunting, I'd wager.

2 posted on 05/15/2006 6:09:35 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: LSUfan
Here's a pic
3 posted on 05/15/2006 6:09:45 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: ExcursionGuy84

>An Mk-14 would be the ULTIMATE firearm for either comabt,
>plain 'ole shooting or even hunting, I'd wager.


Hunting what?

It would be a waste of game.


4 posted on 05/15/2006 6:13:12 PM PDT by adamsjas
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I own an M1A, which is the civilian version of the M-14 and when I used to hunt, I hunted deer with it. There is a 5 round magazine available for it and it shoots .308 Winchester. Damn good rifle for hunting.


5 posted on 05/15/2006 6:15:17 PM PDT by LSUfan
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I carried an M-14 as a young marine in 1964. Ninety-nine percent of my platoon "qualified" with this fine rifle at the rifle range. I was new to firearms, but after marine corps training I could hit a "B" traget 20 out of 20 rounds from the prone position at 500 meters after 3 weeks of training.(You don't want a marine shooting at you from long range...the Corps makes every marine a rifleman from cook to "office pinkie".) The civilian version of the M-14 is the M-1A. Both are fine rifles. The AK-47 is a crude, but effective killing tool at close range....a confrontation between an M-14 and AK-47 at distances greater than 300 meters has a bad result for the holder of the AK-47(with skillful users on both ends). The M-1 Garrand's offspring, the M-14(M-1A) is a splendid firearm.
6 posted on 05/15/2006 6:17:44 PM PDT by ed1340 (Quality endures.)
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I wonder how many M-14's we have left in inventory. I am sure I read that Clinton had ordered them destroyed, or at least a lot of them destroyed somewhere in Alabama.


7 posted on 05/15/2006 6:18:48 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: adamsjas

Deer? And just about anything else that that requires a full-power rifle round.


8 posted on 05/15/2006 6:18:48 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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I first qualified on the M-14 in the 60s. It was a fine weapon. The M-16 was lighter, but jammed a lot.
9 posted on 05/15/2006 6:22:14 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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I guess the modifications reduce the weight as well.


10 posted on 05/15/2006 6:25:04 PM PDT by decimon
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"I wonder how many M-14's we have left in inventory. I am sure I read that Clinton had ordered them destroyed, or at least a lot of them destroyed somewhere in Alabama."

C'mon, Clinton is a prick, but do you seriously reckon any president would micro-manage down to that level?


11 posted on 05/15/2006 6:26:01 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: adamsjas
"It would be a waste of game."

At typical hunting range, there is very little difference in "killing power" between the 7.62X51 Nato than hundred plus year old cartridges like the old 30-30 Winchester.

12 posted on 05/15/2006 6:28:04 PM PDT by labette (Proclaiming themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: LSUfan

That's a little different than the M14 I trained with in the late 60's.


13 posted on 05/15/2006 6:31:47 PM PDT by umgud (so lonely, I take telemarketer calls)
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The US military will not return to .308.

The best we can hope for is an adoption of the 6.8 round.

Don't hold your breath. It ain't gonna happen.

In terms of small arms, the military is more concerned with putting optics on rifles than finding or fielding a larger bullet. With limited dollars in the budget, this is the correct choice. Most people, our enemies included, have no idea how much more effective a soldier or marine is with glass on top of a rifle. Iron sights alone is warfare in the last century, not this one.

BTW, the question of reliability in the M16/M4 rifles is largely a thing of the past. Keep your rifle clean and well lubed and it will not let you down. Failure to clean and lube your rifle is a human failure and not that of the rifle.


14 posted on 05/15/2006 6:35:18 PM PDT by MyDogAllah
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To: LSUfan

OOOO Pretty

15 posted on 05/15/2006 6:35:26 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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To: MyDogAllah

I never ran into any reliability issues with either the M16A1 or M16A2 when I was in the Marine Corps.

I also have no problem with optics--as long as the Marine Corps still teaches basic marksmanship with iron sights like they always have, first. Marines need to learn to shoot with iron sights at known distances out to the 500 yard line from the basic shooting positions first and foremost before they move on to more advanced techniques and gee-whiz gear like Tijicon sights.


16 posted on 05/15/2006 6:41:42 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: tophat9000

Oh, now that is too F'n cool. The greatest ever coming out of retirement to serve the country again.


17 posted on 05/15/2006 6:49:49 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Dave Elias
"C'mon, Clinton is a prick, but do you seriously reckon any president would micro-manage down to that level?

"Yes

479,367 M14 rifles were destroyed by Presidential Executive Order during the Clinton administration

Wikipedia

18 posted on 05/15/2006 6:50:27 PM PDT by labette (Proclaiming themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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I suspect the reason Clinton had them destroyed was to make sure they never made it into the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

Of course there is always the possibility that he just hates guns and wants all destroyed that he possibly can.

19 posted on 05/15/2006 6:58:59 PM PDT by yarddog
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I say the answer is "C"...both of the above.


20 posted on 05/15/2006 7:01:45 PM PDT by labette (Proclaiming themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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