[freepatriot32]

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[billbears]

And start thinking about how you're going to reclaim your rightful place in the conservative coalition.

Step one, find a party that's actually conservative to make a coalition with. If not possible (as neither major party is conservative or believes in classical liberalism), work locally to convince others the wisdom of voting for a third party. It's nice to see, I suppose, the Libertarian party offer a Presidential candidate but when the establishment media (including Fox) doesn't report on it, it's sort of a moot point. Step two, vote in the elections that are of importance to you (local elections), leave the other ones blank. Who cares who wins the national elections right now? Neither one of the parties will limit government.

[JohnnyZ]

So, libertarians: It's time to get out of that hot tub!

Get out of the hot tub, Andrew and Tony! Take your log cabin place in the Republican coalition!

There's a reason about half of libertarians vote Democrat -- because they're pro-abortion, pro-gay, and anti-religious.

Many good elements of conservatism are libertarian, but it doesn't follow that everything libertarian is good.

[MNJohnnie]

Screaming for 100% of what you want and demanding ZERO of what you don't want is the behavior of spoiled petulant children, NOT adults. "Organized voting blocks" who demand 100% ideological purity end up being completely politically irreverent. Why. Well suppose the losetarians form a block. Suddenly issue A comes along. Give their knee jerk 100%erism, anyone who has a different view on issue A will suddenly decide they have to "Stand on principal" and abandon the party. Pretty soon you have 40 Losetraian parties each thumping their chest and screaming about how "pure" they are. Meanlwile they get ZERO accomplished in politics.

Based on Judge Appointments alone the Losetarians have reason to be happy with Bush. Squealing for 100%erism will get you one thing. 100% Political irrelevancy. Adults understand the need to compromise, spoiled children throw tempetantrums about it.

[NCSteve]

The Pew survey finds 50 percent of libertarians identifying as Republicans, 41 percent as Democrats.

To paraphrase Dickens, "Then sir, the Pew survey is a ass."

Anyone who identifies as both a libertarian and a Democrat is either lying or miscategorized. You cannot categorize someone as libertarian simply because they are pro-choice and especially if they favor special rights for homosexuals. The fascist and national socialist tendencies of the Democrats would far overshadow any appeal of social liberalism for libertarians. Their results are further made suspect by the number indicating that only 9 percent of libertarians are either unaffiliated or associated with a third party (the Libertarian Party maybe?!)

The sad fact is that very many actual libertarians don't vote at all, choosing to withold their permission to be governed. That idea is inconceivable to the pubbies as well as those from the party of asses. Mr. Sager seems to have missed that in his polemic, but it shouldn't be all that surprising.

[noncommie]

While George W. Bush gained 10 points between 2000 and 2004 among voters who thought government should "do more," he stayed essentially even among voters who felt government should not do more or should "do less." In other words, ... libertarians stood by their man.

Since when is that the definition of a "liberaltarian?" I don't see smoking pot, isolationism or losing elections anywhere in that platform.

Being "conservative" means wanting less government spending. The fact that a handful of rabidly moderate RINO's (including George Bush) currently have a chokehold on Congress right now doesn't change any of that.

If liberaltarians are evenly split right now between Republicans and Democrats, it's not because they think Democrats are the most frugal. It's because every individual liberaltarian has a different tripping point issue he's single-mindedly devoted to.

The solution to the problem is a little thing called "primary politics." Liberaltarians can band together to ward off the black helicopters if they want to. Conservatives need to band together to get more conservative candidates for general elections. And trying to appease a self-marginalizing voting block isn't just a waste of time -- it's a step backwards.

[PhilCollins]

Between 2000 and 2004, the vote for the Constitution Party presidential candidate increased by 83%, but the vote for the libertarian presidential candidate decreased.

[Poser]

I'm a libertarian (small L). I tried infiltrating my county Republican party and was even a county and state delegate for several years.

I gave up. Jeb Bradley and Charlie Bass are RINOs and they are going to keep winning. If I mount a successful attempt to curtail their votes, a Democrat will win. Dick Swett was our Senator the last time we tried that. Big mistake.

We (small L libertarians) are a small minority. When we stray from the more conservative of the two parties, we simply guarantee the liberals will win.

It's a Hobson's choice... Democrats or RINOs?

[dr_who_2]

Libertarians are godless, evil, self-centered, nutty, swines. Especially when they don't vote for the latest beleagured RINO incumbent. When the Republican incumbent is riding high at the polls and no election's on, Libertarians aren't as bad... or at least their godless philosophy and disgusting behavior does't bug the mainstream as much. Libertarianism is such a potent political force that the traitorous fraction of the electorate that calls itself "Libertarian" and actually thinks like one is constantly in danger of destroying the GOP .... establishment.

[dr_who_2]

Libertarians are particularly obnoxious whenever they are cynical or apathetic about the latest crisis whipped up by the paleocons, authoritarian right, and so-called neoconservatives.

[HopefulPatriot]

If Jim Robinson and FreeRepublic can recruit Rush to this effort, WE the people can start taking our country back one elected office at a time. Once our victories start, at some point they will begin to snowball. Libertarians, other third parties, and Republicans will not only want to get on our band wagon, current incumbents will also not want to be on our targeted list. Addicted to office, some incumbents will actually become part of the solution just to stay another term or two. But without Jim Robinson's and FreeRepublic's help, the best plan ever devised to restore the Constitution may never see the light of day or rise to Rush's attention.

[Dead Corpse]

Get behind RLC candidates in the Primaries. Hold current office holders accountable for their actions in office.

Most importantly, NEVER miss an opportunity to "take down", poltically speaking, a liberal. Do not shrink from the fact that said liberal could have an (R) next to their name instead of the more standard (D).

[Just another Joe]

is either to organize existing libertarians more effectively to vote and contribute time and money as a bloc

That's like trying to herd cats.
I am a small "l" libertarian. Actually I'm a libertarian leaning conservative.
I think his premise is right. Until you encroach on a libertarian personally they really just don't care much.