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To: DannyTN; Soul Seeker
The President's comments in the past make it clear that he's ok with lax immigration. The reaction to the minutemen confirm that.

That wasn't a reaction to the Minutemen. Look at the actual interview.

The President may have increased men on the Border but the results over the last 6 years are that they have been stunningly ineffective. It's hard to believe that they could have been that ineffective without a wink and a nod from the top.

What's the proof of this?

When one solitary bust of Illegals in ohio makes national news, something is seriously wrong.

With the media coverage. This subject hasn't been a hot issue in the news, ever. Only now with the May Day crap has it been. So why be surprised that only now is it being reported on, when no one's cared--certainly not the MSM.

When they talk about putting guards on the border but not letting them patrol. They are telegraphing their intent not to take this serious.

But it hasn't happened and we're already complaining about it.

Bush is a man who sticks by his principles. If he is going to do this, he's going to do it. In the past 24 hours he's gone from 0 to 6000 NG on the ground and the promise of a wall.

I'm just not getting this whole "We haven't talked about this for six years but we want it NOW!" trend.

66 posted on 05/16/2006 4:19:23 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Real Conservatives don't sit home on election day)
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To: Darkwolf377
"That wasn't a reaction to the Minutemen. Look at the actual interview. "

I wasn't talking about the interview. I was talking about reactions to the minutemen in the past.

"What's the proof of this?"

Look Around, it's obvious.

So why be surprised that only now is it being reported on, when no one's cared--certainly not the MSM.

It's not being reported, because there is nothing to report on. Nobody is making arrests, because nobody thinks the system will actually do anything.

"Bush is a man who sticks by his principles. If he is going to do this, he's going to do it. In the past 24 hours he's gone from 0 to 6000 NG on the ground and the promise of a wall. "

I'd like to believe this, but on this one issue, he has failed us. A change would be nice, but I'm not convinced given his total disregard of this duty prior till now. And his speech still has a lot of mealy mouth talk in it. I agree with Joseph Farrah's analysis of Bush's speech.

"But it hasn't happened and we're already complaining about it. "

They did say they wouldn't be allowed to patrol. So why shouldn't we take them at their word. They've told us clearly they are going to limit the activities of the 6000 to surveillance and road and barrier construction. Why shouldn't we believe them and complain if that is insufficient? How can you say that? You've been on FR since at least 2004 and you know it's been discussed. Granted the country was a little distracted in 2001-2003 with the War on Terror, but even then there were a lot of people point to the borders and yelling "SECURITY BREACH".

"I'm just not getting this whole "We haven't talked about this for six years but we want it NOW!" trend."

WHAT!????

You have been on FR since at least early 2004 and you haven't seen this discussed?!!! Since 2001 there have been a ton of folks pointing to the border and yelling "SECURITY BREACH".

How long have the minutemen been operating? How long do you think we were fed up before they started?

It's not a case of not talking about it for 6 years. It's a case of talking about it and seeing nothing done for 6 years. In fact the problem has gotten noticeably worse.

69 posted on 05/16/2006 4:55:39 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Darkwolf377
If you think this has been ignored for the past six years you've been picking and choosing your threads; and we "were" going to get 10,000 troups on the border until Vincente' Fox called the President Sunday and it was lowered to 6,000 -- and now a threat that any guards harm one hair on their little heads the Mexican Government is going to sue the American Government.

BTW this evening the Senate reached a compromise and it's expected to pass tomorrow -- they've decided along with everything else it's okay to allow felons to stay in the USA.

The Hagel-Martinez Bill calculates out to about 196 million immigrants over the next 10-20 years. Our current population is 300 million, so we will grow by 2/3 -- all Hispanic.

75 posted on 05/16/2006 5:24:42 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Darkwolf377
In the past 24 hours he's gone from 0 to 6000 NG

You forgot about the border patrol agents he promised us after 9/11. AND NEVER DELIVERED!
93 posted on 05/16/2006 7:44:34 PM PDT by steel_resolve (BUSH IS WHACK ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.)
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