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To: rlmorel
Good God. I suppose this means he thinks that illegal immigrants granted amnesty are going to vote REPUBLICAN??????????? What on EARTH is he smoking?

First of all most new arrivals to this country are less likely to vote than the average American, even if they are naturalized citizens. Their kids do vote though. The sons and daughters of the illegals of the 80's that Reagan did give amnesty to provided the margin of victory to Bush in both 2000 and 2004. Bush and other Republicans have been getting around 40% of the Latino vote.

Up until the last few months, a majority of Hispanics have been pretty non political and have not voted. Since the House voted to label their fathers and grandfathers felons and threaten to send them back to Mexico, they have become energized about voting. If the House bill stands and there is no earned path to citizenship, more and more of them will vote and yes they will vote Democrat. This will be similar to what happened following Pete Wilson's gubernatorial campaign and the various propositions passed (and overruled by the courts) that changed California from a swing state to one of the bluest of Blue states.

41 posted on 05/21/2006 7:22:04 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S

40% of the Latin vote does not equal 100% mexican descent. Cubans, and many others are classified as Latin, and they are conservative in much greater numbers.

Do you have any statistics to bolster your assertion? I would wager that hispanics of Mexican descent and low income vote democrat in roughly the same proportions as traditional liberal constituencies as blacks and jews, meaning 75% or greater.

Besides, Latins who came here legally are just as likely to resent the granting of amnesty to illegals.


48 posted on 05/21/2006 7:30:45 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Dave S
Up until the last few months, a majority of Hispanics have been pretty non political and have not voted. Since the House voted to label their fathers and grandfathers felons and threaten to send them back to Mexico, they have become energized about voting. If the House bill stands and there is no earned path to citizenship, more and more of them will vote and yes they will vote Democrat.

This was part of the plan. BushCo requested Sensenbrenner and the House to put those felong provisions in the bill. Then they pretended to have nothing to do with it and proceeded with the full Senate amnesty deal.

This has made the House very resistant, seeing correctly that Bush could care less how many of them lose their seats or that the Senate bill will give the Dims tens of millions of new voters that will sweep the GOP out of Congress for decades to come.
51 posted on 05/21/2006 7:33:46 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Dave S

NOT TRUE.

The illegals that gained amnesty in CA and their childern are solidly Democratic, and the same is true in other states. The Hispanics that Bush gained the most in are ones in familes that have been in the US for generations, such as parts of Texas(such as San Antonio), New Mexico, and rural Colorado around Pueblo. In areas that have large numers of 1rs and 2nd generation immigrants, such as So Cal, the Denver area and even Dallas TX, Bush saw his percentage go down.

To be blunt, y our views are not just wrong, but they are quite dangerous.


75 posted on 05/21/2006 1:20:15 PM PDT by RFT1
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