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To: Joe Bfstplk
Truth to tell, the likes of Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter and the kick-them-all-out conservatives sound every bit as nutty as Randi Rhodes and the impeach-Bush liberals.

Conservatives can't elect national candidates without attracting a sizable percentage of the moderates, and lately conservative rhetoric has been off-putting in the extreme to fence-sitters.

11 posted on 05/21/2006 6:14:08 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
"Conservatives can't elect national candidates without attracting a sizable percentage of the moderates, and lately conservative rhetoric has been off-putting in the extreme to fence-sitters."



Moderates are also against amnesty and open borders. Only the liberal Democrats and the ruling elites, from both parties, are in favor.
17 posted on 05/21/2006 6:19:55 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: quidnunc

"Conservatives can't elect national candidates without attracting a sizable percentage of the moderates, and lately conservative rhetoric has been off-putting in the extreme to fence-sitters."


==

The voice of reason.

Some so-called conservatives are actually advocating helping the Dems win -- now how conservatives is that?!


18 posted on 05/21/2006 6:20:11 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: quidnunc
Conservatives can't elect national candidates without attracting a sizable percentage of the moderates...

Bush doesn't appear to be attracting too many moderates, as evidenced by his abysmal approval ratings.

In the third Bush-Kerry debate, with the election on the line, Bush's stance on immigration was much harder than now. He wasn't saying anything about "adjustment of status", it was Kerry.

Bush and the RINO Senators are not trying to attract any moderate voters. They are carrying water for cheap labor business interests.

19 posted on 05/21/2006 6:21:49 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: quidnunc

"Conservative rhetoric has been off-putting in the extreme to fence-sitters (i.e, moderates)."


Really? So Senator Dick "Marines murdered innocent Iraqis" Durbin is closer to the moderates point of view?

Wishful liberal thinking.


24 posted on 05/21/2006 6:26:23 PM PDT by mwfsu84
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To: quidnunc
"Truth to tell, the likes of Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter and the kick-them-all-out conservatives sound every bit as nutty as Randi Rhodes and the impeach-Bush liberals. Conservatives can't elect national candidates without attracting a sizable percentage of the moderates, and lately conservative rhetoric has been off-putting in the extreme to fence-sitters."

Spoken like a true "fence-sitting" moderate.

27 posted on 05/21/2006 6:30:26 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: quidnunc
[QUOTE]Truth to tell, the likes of Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter and the kick-them-all-out conservatives sound every bit as nutty as Randi Rhodes and the impeach-Bush liberals. Conservatives can't elect national candidates without attracting a sizable percentage of the moderates, and lately conservative rhetoric has been off-putting in the extreme to fence-sitters.[/QUOTE]

Can't vouch for Malkin and Colter but I have been listening to Laura Ingraham every day, you are either dead wrong or listening to her with extreme prejudice and hearing something else, because she NEVER took an extreme position of "kick em all out" in fact she is more concerned about border security which is a separate but related issue to law enforcement.

As for the fence sitters, they usually are tuned into sports or music in the morning and study the issues the night before an election anyway,

So I see your points spiraling into the ground in flames at this moment...lol

29 posted on 05/21/2006 6:31:42 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: quidnunc

Nope--you constructed a straw dog with your labeling Michele, Ann and Laura the "kick-them-all-out conservatives." What THEY want, what I want and, to the best of my understanding, what most FREEPERS want are SECURE BORDERS (heck, I think most AMERICANS want the same). You cease being a country if you have no enforced borders.

Bush has been asleep at the switch on this one for a LOOOONG time, so please, have another cerveza and go celebrate Cinco de Mayo again.


46 posted on 05/21/2006 7:19:48 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: quidnunc

"Truth to tell, the likes of Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter and the kick-them-all-out conservatives sound every bit as nutty as Randi Rhodes and the impeach-Bush liberals."

cite please?
http://michellemalkin.com/immigration/

and maybe you should Rush to that list ...
"Folks, I know, it's getting worse by the day, and it's inexplicable. It doesn't make any sense. What are these 18 Republicans doing? What is so difficult to understand about this in terms of the smart, sensible thing to do here? The first thing is the security of the border, and to have 18 Republicans, "Oh, nope, can't put that in there." Maybe they didn't like the fact that we can't do anything else until the border is secure. Well, what is wrong with that?" - Rush Limbaugh

AND SENATOR SESSIONS AND SENATOR CORNYN!
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2006/05/20/required-week-end-reading-sessions-reveals-senate-punting-on-immigration-bill/#more-1278


"Conservatives can't elect national candidates without attracting a sizable percentage of the moderates, and lately conservative rhetoric has been off-putting in the extreme to fence-sitters."

Nonsense, the rhetoric that is offputting is Bush's rhetoric on immigration!!! Which is lower in the polls, Bush approval or approval to build a fence? Polls shows consistently that desire for lower immigration levels and opposition to amnesty is widely supported and cuts across conservative/moderate/liberal lines.

example:
66% of moderates like the House approach:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/2006poll.html


63 posted on 05/21/2006 8:40:37 PM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: quidnunc

"Conservatives can't elect national candidates without attracting a sizable percentage of the moderates..."


Oddly enough, Republicans can't get elected without attracting a certain amount of their conservative base...."


That axe swings both ways.


94 posted on 05/22/2006 3:00:07 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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