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To: frogjerk

No I'm right look it up. It's historical fact.


15 posted on 05/23/2006 3:31:48 PM PDT by snowman1
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To: snowman1
No I'm right look it up. It's historical fact.

No you are wrong, about just as wrong as all of the so-called "facts" in this book/movie and "Holy Blood, Holy Grail".

16 posted on 05/23/2006 3:33:03 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: snowman1

You are most definitiley wrong. It was in fact the Christian community beginning with the very witnesses of Christ while He walked amongst them who placed a stamp of approval upon which letters and gospels were acceptable, and they based that upon one sure thing, 'does the letter or gospel focus upon Him and Him crucified and risen for our salvation and justification?' When you make such a statement try to stand, you had better be ready to post what you assume to support your lie.


20 posted on 05/23/2006 3:36:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: snowman1
On the four Gospels from http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03274a.htm

. The formation of the Tetramorph, or Fourfold Gospel Irenæus, in his work "Against Heresies" (A.D. 182-88), testifies to the existence of a Tetramorph, or Quadriform Gospel, given by the Word and unified by one Spirit; to repudiate this Gospel or any part of it, as did the Alogi and Marcionites, was to sin against revelation and the Spirit of God. The saintly Doctor of Lyons explicitly states the names of the four Elements of this Gospel, and repeatedly cites all the Evangelists in a manner parallel to his citations from the Old Testament. From the testimony of St. Irenæus alone there can be no reasonable doubt that the Canon of the Gospel was inalterably fixed in the Catholic Church by the last quarter of the second century. Proofs might be multiplied that our canonical Gospels were then universally recognized in the Church, to the exclusion of any pretended Evangels. The magisterial statement of Irenæus may be corroborated by the very ancient catalogue known as the Muratorian Canon, and St. Hippolytus, representing Roman tradition; by Tertullian in Africa, by Clement in Alexandria; the works of the Gnostic Valentinus, and the Syrian Tatian's Diatessaron, a blending together of the Evangelists' writings, presuppose the authority enjoyed by the fourfold Gospel towards the middle of the second century. To this period or a little earlier belongs the pseduo-Clementine epistle in which we find, for the first time after II Peter, iii, 16, the word Scripture applied to a New Testament book. But it is needless in the present article to array the full force of these and other witnesses, since even rationalistic scholars like Harnack admit the canonicity of the quadriform Gospel between the years 140-175.

24 posted on 05/23/2006 3:40:11 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: snowman1

Thrown out gospels?

Never heard of such. Go to your local store and you will find a Bible. That is the Word of God. Not some supposedly lost or hidden "code".


28 posted on 05/23/2006 3:54:20 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: snowman1
Historical, schmistorical.

From the same idiots who brought you this movie. That's exactly the line they're pushing, and there are folks out there gullible enough to believe it.

Denying the historicity of the Four Gospels is a waste of time. There are too many contemporaneous references. The later "gospels" (and there aren't 'a large number', just 5-6) are of much later provenance (mostly the Gnostics in Egypt) and push a religion that is unrecognizable as Christianity.

57 posted on 05/24/2006 6:44:42 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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