Party of traitors (Republicans -conservative politics are purely symbolic)

WND ^ | May 26, 2006 | Ilana Mercer

[IrishMike]

What is wrong with American conservatism? Hardly anything at all. From tax to immigration to judicial philosophy, conservatives are beginning to set the agenda of public debate. Whole stretches of popular culture are objectively conservative – talk radio and the blogosphere, for example.

While there is no dispute as to which tradition belong "The Incredibles" and "The Passion of the Christ," I would venture that "South Park" and "The Simpsons" are conservative-cum-libertarian. They lampoon liberal elites and regularly slaughter the sacred cows of political correctness, diversity, multiculturalism and radical environmentalism.

"There is now in this country a conservative movement – and I include libertarians in this movement – more passionate and agreed in substance on what needs to be done than I can recall. All that is wrong with [American] conservatism is that it lacks a conservative party. The problem with the [Republican Party] and its associated media is that its function has been less to advance conservative interests than to neutralize conservative opinion" – a function evinced by the Bush immigration betrayal.

[IrishMike]

Article also contains....... When all is said and done, ordinary American conservatives worry about the growth in the size and power of government under Bush. They fret over mass immigration and the national identity and debt. Keeping what they earn and being able to secure life and property – with firearms – is still a priority. When plied with enough ale, conservatives will increasingly admit their jingoism is a function, not so much of their devotion to W's Wilsonian wars, but of their patriotism, (unreciprocated) loyalty to the party they believed represented them, and a visceral loathing of the left.

[trubluolyguy]

What is wrong with American conservatism?

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Besides the fact that it will soon lack a viable political party to act as a vehicle for it's agenda?

[trubluolyguy]

The article is (mostly) correct.

[LouAvul]

There is now in this country a conservative movement – and I include libertarians in this movement

Sorry, but I don't consider libertarians conservatives. Open borders and legalized drugs are not what this conservative ever wants to see.

[JamesP81]

Besides the fact that it will soon lack a viable political party to act as a vehicle for it's agenda?

Why don't we just form our own then? I agree with the author that we should vote our consciences. Depending on who the republicans nominate in 08, it's looking more and more like the Constitution Party. Unless the R's nominate Mike Pence. I'd vote for him, but that's because he's a real conservative. And who cares that he has an R next to his name. It's the conservative part I'm interested in.

[edcoil]

No really, conservatives are simply pushing back with equal force that had been pushed against them for years.

When eopel want liberialsim and push lightly, it gets a light push back. The left had made a major push and now the right is simply pushing back equally.

[edcoil]

Not really, conservatives are simply pushing back with equal force that had been pushed against them for years.

When peopel want liberialism and push lightly, it gets a light push back. The left had made a major push and now the right is simply pushing back equally.

[MarshallDillon]

Where did the American Republicans go?

[Sam Cree]

W is a conservative in some ways, he's religious, he believes in free enterprise, lower taxes (probably not low, however), a strong military, patriotism...OTOH, he also believes, along with the Left, that government should take a central role in the ordering and arranging of society. Not my kind of a conservative, but one that fits within the definition, IMO.

[A.Hun]

Considering that the Republican Party is every bit as corrupt, incompetent, tyrannical and treacherous, I've substituted "American" for "British" and "Republican Party" for "Conservative Party."

About what I would expect from World Nut Daily....

[Sunshine Sister]

Mostly correct and it makes me want to stay at home the next time the ballot box is open. Politicians are simply not to be trusted any more.

[IrishMike]

The Grand Old Party divide
Conservatives VS Rino's

[DTogo]

To press the point, Gabb adds a Parthian shot: "If I must be destroyed, let me be speared in the front by someone who looks me in the eye and calls himself my enemy. Far better this than be garroted from behind by a supposed friend."

[lesser_satan]

I would venture that "South Park" and "The Simpsons" are conservative-cum-libertarian.

South Park is undeniably conservative, but The Simpsons? Give me a break. Matt Groening is a known leftist.

[Texas Federalist]

Sorry, but I don't consider libertarians conservatives. Open borders and legalized drugs are not what this conservative ever wants to see.

I think you are confusing small "l" libertarians with capital "L" Libertarians. Dick Army was a libertarian conservative who didn't favor open borders or legalized drugs.

[xzins]

the Bush immigration betrayal.

There is no Bush immigration betrayal. I will agree that there's a large "Bush immigration disagreement."

But, what the President is doing is written word-for-word in the 2004 Republican Party Platform.

To betray something, you have to go against what you promised you'd do.

The president has NOT done that. He has done EXACTLY what he said he would do.

The betrayal talk is perhaps by infiltrators hoping to ruin the republican hold on the SEnate. If there is one more conservative justice placed on the Supreme Court, the nation will change for decades.

[Richard Kimball]

South Park has a conservative streak, but what does the term conservative mean, anyway? I may start a vanity thread on this, as I believe that people who call themselves conserative often mean quite different, and sometimes opposite things. South Park is conservative in that it bashes liberals quite freely, particularly icons like Gore, Chris Reeve, Rob Reiner, etc. Manry social conservatives, however, are aghast at their take on sexual morality, for example.

[trubluolyguy]

Depending on who the republicans nominate in 08, it's looking more and more like the Constitution Party. Unless the R's nominate Mike Pence. I'd vote for him, but that's because he's a real conservative. And who cares that he has an R next to his name. It's the conservative part I'm interested in.

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Describes me perfectly. I WILL work within the Republican party to get conservatives elected and get the conservative agenda pushed forward. Failing getting a conservative candidate in the Republican party I and many others will NOT sit at home, we will find a conservative candidate in a conservative party to vote for. To anyone besides JamesP81 reading this, do not try to scare me with Hillary. Save your scary campfire tales for the little children, I don't scare easily.

[trubluolyguy]

Rush just said it. "Compassionate Conservatives" ie; moderates vs Conservatives.



I know which side I am on.

[griswold3]

I will only leave when the democratic Party kicks out the Marxists in their party.
Ideology is on the line. Today we will hold our ground as best we can until tomorrow. We KNOW what will happen if the liberals get to run this country.