Posted on 05/30/2006 9:51:11 AM PDT by holymoly
My absolute FAVORITE aircraft!!!!
I like the Japanese WWII nick name for the Corsair
"Whistling Death"
Did Pappy Boyington also fly a Corsair?
My favorite too...
Yep, that's the first thing I think of when I see the Corsair, "Baa Baa Black Sheep."
I'm an aviation mechanical designer. 'Bout two years ago, I finished working on the HondaJet...Honda's first foray into bizjet aviation. The absolute highlight of this project for me was working with Ed MacDonough, a 90 year old structural engineer. It was the highlight for me because he is also the engineer that designed the Corsair's wingroot system. Ninety years old and his mind is/was RAZOR sharp. It was quite a treat.
Round engine, two wheels ping
Thirteen-thousand! Incredible!
Well deserved medal...God bless all such heroes.
Yep. VMF-214 may have started with F4F Wildcats (I'm not sure) but they made their name in the F4U Corsair.
The irony is that the Navy, who ordered the aircraft, got cold feet when they realized that the huge, long nose made it extremely difficult to land on an aircraft carrier (the deck couldn't be seen under the nose and the pilots were landing blind). So they passed it off to the Marines and land-based Navy squadrons, where it really shone, and the Navy carrier-based squadrons used the Grumman F6F Hellcat, which was a more forgiving (and no less lethal) aircraft.
British Royal Navy pilots were actually the first to put the Corsair into wide carrier-based use, when they figured out that a sweeping curved approach could solve the visibility problem. Only then did the USN start flying it off carriers.
The highlight of the 2002 Celebrate Freedom Festival (Columbia, SC) to me was watching Joe Tobul's awesomely restored Korean-era F4U-4 "Korean War Hero" go through its paces. Sadly, the plane suffered an engine failure the next day and crashed, killing Tobul; he possibly could have bailed out, but stayed with the plane to try and get it back to the airport. He didn't make it and crashed into a backyard about a mile away.
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It's right up there with my favorites too.
I remember reading something form a Marine pilot who was switched from the F4F Wildcat to the Corsair. He said that the first time he cracked open the throttle on a takeoff run the tremendous surge of power from that big P&W Double Wasp radial pinned him back to the seat like nothing he had never experienced before. After that flight he had complete confidence that he could outrun, outclimb, and outfight any Jap fighter anywhere anytime, a confidence he had not felt in the semi-obsolescent Grumman.
They say that confidence in yourself and your aircraft is 90% of the game in fighter combat, and the Corsair apparently inspired lots of it. I hope somebody will keep a few of those old warbirds flying at least as long as there are people who remember them in their heyday.
The long nose and it landing characteristics on carriers is why one of its nicknames is the Ensign Eliminator.
The Corsair couldn't maneuver with a Zero--nothing could. But it was 60+ mph faster, much tougher, and much better at high altitudes. If an F4U had an altitude advantage it could just dive down, slash into a formation of Zeroes, and then either zoom back up to altitude or dive away. If it was lower, it could just dive away and the Zeroes had no hope of catching it.
The wing design was simply to get enough clearance on the landing gear so that huge prop wouldn't hit the ground. But it was a fantastically maneuverable plane at high speed. Zeroes were amazingly nimble at low speed, but over about 300 mph their controls got so heavy they could hardly roll. That was when the Corsair was just getting started.
Everything I've read says that the F4U was a real bastard to handle at low speed, though--very twitchy because of the massive torque caused by the engine and prop. It was not a forgiving airplane to a rookie, especially on carrier operations.
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Notice he didn't say "out turn"? ;) Who needs to out-turn, when all you have to do when caught in a pickle is step on the gas and yer gone!
Yep. 1850 to 2400 horsepower (depending on version) swinging a 13-foot prop, that's a LOT of torque. I'm not sure if this is true, but there's stories that if a rookie cracked the throttle wide open too fast, and didn't know what to do, he could flip the plane over in a heartbeat.
You look at the technology and the weapons of WWII, and compare them to today, and have to wonder at the risks that were accepted as commonplace 65 years ago. A plane with the Corsair's difficult handling characteristics simply wouldn't be made today--there'd be outcries, Congressional hearings, lawsuits, media exposes on "Ensign Eliminators" and "deathtraps" like the Corsair and the B-26 Marauder. Gunners standing in unheated unpressurized B-17s at 25,000 feet, freezing their hands to their guns at 40 below zero? The media wouldn't stand for it.
But back then, people just shrugged, hitched up their pants, and accepted the risks. And they freed the world.
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There is a beautiful one still in flying condition at the Fargo Air Museum. Always loved the look of the Corsair, but was stunned by the size of it.
Also have a super Corsair on display there from time to time, but its still flying competition races.
I don't doubt the story is true. About 10-15 years ago, a P-51 Mustang tried landing at a nearby airport. For whatever reason, the pilot decided to abort the landing and pushed the throttle all the way forward for a go-around. It started to roll, caught a wingtip, and crashed. The Corsair had a LOT more torque than the P-51.
Our aircraft in WWII may have been "twitchy", but none of them ((that I can think of) had flaws that a good pilot could not master. I am thinking of the British Typhoon and a few others. The tail would actually fall off of it in some situations because of poor design. It also became uncontrollable in a dive because of aerodynamic interference at the engine oil-cooler/wing-root intersection.
Used heavily during the Korean war too.
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