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ACLU Opposes Red-Light Cams
KCCI 8 News ^ | June 15, 2006 | Unattributed

Posted on 06/15/2006 9:50:31 AM PDT by Ben Mugged

DES MOINES, Iowa -- New traffic-light cameras have not even been plugged in yet in Clive and they are already getting opposition.

In about two weeks, Clive will hook up a six cameras in hopes of catching red-light runners.

The American Civil Liberties Union spoke out Wednesday, saying the government is getting too nosy.

"They can only be in so many places at one time, obviously," said Clive's City Manager Dennis Henderson.

The cameras will capture images of red-light violators and their license plates. The vehicle owners will then find a $75 ticket in their mailbox.

City leaders said the cameras will save lives.

"You may have the accidents, but hopefully they'd be much more minor," Henderson said. Others are concerned.

"If you want the government to control you, jump on board. These are great for controlling people. But if you like to have autonomy as an individual in society -- then you want to be suspicious of this," said Ben Stone of the Iowa ACLU.

The ACLU is fighting the city of Davenport about cameras. The cams raised $200,000 in just five months.

"They're very attractive to local government officials because it's a way to suck a lot of money out of the citizenry," Stone said. City leaders said that money does not drive the decision to install the cameras.

"Revenue generated from this program is going to go right back into public safety, whether it's to hire additional police officers or firefighters, or equipment for them," Henderson said.

Henderson said he hopes the cameras encourage drivers to observe the traffic signals, change their behavior, become safer operators of the vehicles and increase public safety.

The ACLU disagreed, saying that city government should not have this much power.

(Excerpt) Read more at kcci.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aclu; bigbrother; redlightcameras
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I'm conflicted......
1 posted on 06/15/2006 9:50:33 AM PDT by Ben Mugged
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To: Ben Mugged

For once I agree with the ACLU.


3 posted on 06/15/2006 9:52:50 AM PDT by msjhall
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To: Ben Mugged

wow, so am I. I guess even rich obnoxious libs don't like getting tickets in the mail either...


4 posted on 06/15/2006 9:53:23 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Ben Mugged

The St. Louis suburb Creve Coeur just voted to install them. They should start going in around January....


5 posted on 06/15/2006 9:53:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ben Mugged

ditto that. I know some intersections where it would really help, but I'm not fond of taking even more steps to get closer to Big Brother.


6 posted on 06/15/2006 9:53:27 AM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: Ben Mugged

The ACLU has nothing better to do than go after cameras to catch potential killers...while seeking to release the terrorists at gitmo and defending child pederasts!

Someone explain what kind of meds these people are on...


7 posted on 06/15/2006 9:54:50 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Ben Mugged

I agree with the ACLU. These little Orwellian revenue enhancers have to be stopped. Red light cameras are unconstitutional.


8 posted on 06/15/2006 9:55:06 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Ben Mugged

Yup. The ACLU really screwed up on this one and got it right.


9 posted on 06/15/2006 9:55:34 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Ninguna tarjeta verde. Ningún Inglés. Ningún servicio.)
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To: jwfiv

Never thought I'd say this, but I agree with the ACLU.


10 posted on 06/15/2006 9:56:08 AM PDT by Serb5150 (Christ is risen! Indeed He is risen!)
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To: Ben Mugged
My 2c....

If the cameras were really about saving lives, the fines would be higher. And, the article would not have had the sentence "The cams raised $200,000 in just five months." It's a revenue generator, pure and simple.

We were able to get them turned off locally, due to the fact that the fining process was unlawful. Law states that 90% of civil fines needed to go to schools....The contractor was pinching $35 out of every $50. A technicality, to be sure, but I don't care. They got turned off.

11 posted on 06/15/2006 9:56:44 AM PDT by wbill
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To: jasoncann

Don't you mean a broken clock?


12 posted on 06/15/2006 9:56:49 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Ben Mugged

I oppose them too. I don't like the creep of big brother.


14 posted on 06/15/2006 9:59:51 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Ben Mugged

Red light cameras have to be watched closely if implemented, as the $$ create an incentive for cities to shorten the duration of yellow lights to catch more offenders. This happened in San Diego, IIRC.

A secondary result is more rear-enders at intersections as people slam on their brakes to avoid running a red.


15 posted on 06/15/2006 10:00:38 AM PDT by Disambiguator (I'm not paranoid, just pragmatic.)
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ACLU Opposes Red-Light Cams

Good for them.

16 posted on 06/15/2006 10:02:09 AM PDT by steve-b (Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
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To: Ben Mugged

When going to court ask to see your accuser face to face.


17 posted on 06/15/2006 10:03:25 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Ben Mugged
It's ALL about the money....

Nothing more, nothing less.

18 posted on 06/15/2006 10:08:13 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The pen is mightier than the................pigs.)
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To: Ben Mugged

I find this as difficult to do as nodding my head in agreement with a Democrat, it's so difficult to agree with the ACLU on anything, but in this case they accidently did something I would agree with.......


19 posted on 06/15/2006 10:08:29 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: jasoncann

Beat me to it.

Hate to agree with the ACLU about anything, though. It's a matter of principle.


20 posted on 06/15/2006 10:08:36 AM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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