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Fed, US Treasury Mull Expanding Bank Recordkeeping Rules
Dow Jones News Service (excerpt) ^ | June 16, 2006 | Campion Walsh

Posted on 06/17/2006 1:15:47 PM PDT by HAL9000

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WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- The Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury Department are considering a major expansion of rules that financial-services providers keep detailed records of financial transactions and confirm customer identities.

The Fed and Treasury's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, known as FinCEN, gave advance notice Friday that they are considering lowering - or eliminating altogether - the current $3,000 threshold below which banks and other financial- services providers don't have to keep special records on transactions.

In a public notice, the federal agencies said this change could help with " combating terrorism, money laundering and other illicit activity." Criminals have become "increasingly sophisticated in their use of funds transfers and transmittals of funds," they said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bank; banking; banks; bigbrother; bureaucracy; fed; federalreserve; financialcrimes; fincen; govwatch; identity; knowyourcustomer; moneylaundering; privacy; recordkeeping; surveillance; treasury; wod; wodlist

1 posted on 06/17/2006 1:15:52 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

I wonder if this tracking would soon apply to medical purchases and other controlled substances like vitamins and any organic vegetables outlawed by the FDA.

This FinCen tracking is getting crazy. It drives the bad guys out of the system and lets other agencies use it for purposes far beyond the original intent. And, we Republicans brought it on ourselves. Why can't we go back to the 'ol court order to go after terrorists?


2 posted on 06/17/2006 1:26:36 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy
And, we Republicans brought it on ourselves.

I haven't looked at it in detail, but from what I have read so far it sound like they are acting on some of the recommendations in the 9/11 Commission Report.
3 posted on 06/17/2006 1:39:51 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: HAL9000

Here we go again, more gubmint meddling in people's financial data under the guise of national security.


4 posted on 06/17/2006 1:41:49 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (PENCE IMMIGRATION PLAN BASHERS WILL BE OBLITERATED)
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To: HAL9000

More and more oppressive government. It just makes life harder for law-abiding citizens and barely slows down the bad guys, who use a lot of cash-only transactions anyway. Why not try and hang some bad guys for heinous crimes? That would STOP some of the evil activity. Oops ... that's too easy.


5 posted on 06/17/2006 1:46:09 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy

F.D.A. Imposes Long-Delayed Rule to Require Tracking of Prescription Drugs
NY Times ^ | June 10, 2006 | BARNABY J. FEDER

Long-delayed federal rules requiring most wholesalers to be able to track prescription drugs from factory floor to pharmacy door will finally take effect in December, the Food and Drug Administration said yesterday.

The regulations, stemming from a 1988 law intended to combat counterfeiting by verifying a drug's pedigree, were originally drafted in 1999.

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6 posted on 06/17/2006 1:47:34 PM PDT by LucyT ("More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition.")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Agreed, this is just like gun control, only the Innocent suffer, bad guys do not put money in banks. Maybe they should find out how Illegal aliens/invaders can buy home with no background check. Thats where all the drug money is going, helping to fuel the Housing speculation fiasco that is getting ready to tank. I would sell now while you can, PHX is done already, people are panicking, crooks are already out and now that they have laundered the cash they are doing the same thing to the Energy sectors


7 posted on 06/17/2006 1:50:52 PM PDT by roverman2K6
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To: HAL9000
funds transfers and transmittals of funds

Gee, both of those, eh?

8 posted on 06/17/2006 2:23:36 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: roverman2K6

"Agreed, this is just like gun control, only the Innocent suffer, bad guys do not put money in banks."

If they really want to catch bad guys they need to put activity monitors on refrigerator/freezers. No telling how many congresscrooks have $100k stuffed in their freezers.

Cheers


9 posted on 06/17/2006 2:34:28 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Illegal immigration will break America, I will not vote to prolong the inevitable.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

There was a Texas senator, (Gramm?) who said something after 911, roughly, that we should win this war by changing the way our enemy lives, not the way we live. If we had the sand to go after the state sponsors of terrorism, we wouldn't have to be gumming up our economy and expanding our government. Guess that's why we're not doing it.


10 posted on 06/17/2006 2:49:19 PM PDT by DC Bound
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To: HAL9000

This is going to raise ATM fees.


11 posted on 06/17/2006 3:32:10 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
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To: HAL9000

"Know your customer" rearing its ugly head again?


12 posted on 06/17/2006 4:49:24 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
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To: HAL9000

the recommendation by an international group of financial authorities known as the Financial Action Task Force. That group, which encourages international cooperation to fight money laundering and terrorist financing, has recommended setting a threshold of no more than $1,000 above which transactions require recordkeeping of basic information about fund transmittors.


So we have an "international group" that tells our treasury and Fed what to do and they say......okay?
This is BS, just more rules and tracking for honest American citizens under the guise of "fighting terrorism". We are already waaaaaaaaay down the slippery slope people.


13 posted on 06/17/2006 6:58:06 PM PDT by sheana
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To: HAL9000

Oh, for Pete's sake! How is looking at every little diddly-shit transaction made by ordinary Americans going to help us catch terrorists and drug dealers??? I just cannot understand the surveillance-minded.


14 posted on 07/07/2006 6:50:25 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; ...

PING!

Might as well just stuff it all in a mattress! Sheesh!


15 posted on 07/07/2006 6:53:48 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: sheana
That group, which encourages international cooperation to fight money laundering and terrorist financing, has recommended setting a threshold of no more than $1,000 above which transactions require recordkeeping of basic information about fund transmittors.

So now the Feds are going to implement a recommendation that forces banks to track my company for direct-depositing my paychecks (virtually always above 1000 after taxes)?

16 posted on 07/07/2006 6:58:24 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Man this is ugly.. goooo big govt!


17 posted on 07/07/2006 7:08:09 AM PDT by Truth-The Anti Spin
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