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To: Phil Harmonic
Admiral Hoffmann once claimed that “none of my Coastal Commands every inserted any troops of this kind into Cambodia” but the full text of Hoffmann's quote actually seems to undermine his fellow Swifties, not help them. Hoffmann continues, “We had some operations we ran north that I am not at liberty to discuss,” apparently conceding that Command Task Force 115 was involved in cross-border missions -- a point the Swifties have long denied as part of their alleged proof Kerry could never have been in Cambodia.

(It is an established historical fact that the American military as well as civilian intelligence were operating covertly in Cambodia years prior to the secret bombing campaign and the public incursion. SOG -- the Studies & Operations Group -- was a joint command that undertook secret missions inside Cambodia beginning not later than 1967, according to the book “Sideshow,” a leading historical work on the war in Cambodia.)

Command of all cross-border operations was under the US Army, Commander of MACV-SOG during that time. It was also well established that all cross border insertions into Cambodia and Laos were by helocopter, not boats, as boats had been discarded as an insertion vehicle in the mid 1960s.

If the Admiral had known about such operations, he is now no longer under any known secrecy prohibitions and should tell what he knows.

If Kerry had skippered a boat into Cambodia, he would have been under operational control of Command and Control South (CCS), a unit of MACVSOG. His boat, and all weapons would have had all identification removed. He would have required a top secret clearance. He would have known exactly what his mission was. Where did he go? What troops did he insert? What was their mission? When did he extract the troops? How did he receive his orders? Who did he report to during the mission?

I was there during that time. I doubt it!

22 posted on 06/19/2006 7:25:40 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
If you read the Admiral's words, you'll notice he said "ran north" - not WEST (into Cambodia), but NORTH into North Vietnam.

So, this distraction - combined with the flagrant lies about his first band-aid scratch on a local (non0hostile fire) mission in a open boat in December (before he qualified for Swift boats) - adds the the "proof" of his self-serving exaggerations of EVERY part of his 4 months in Vietnam.
48 posted on 06/19/2006 8:10:15 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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