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If We've Got A missile, Let's Fire It Into George Bush's Window, Say N Koreans
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-25-2006 | Sergey Soukhorukov - Colin Freeman

Posted on 06/24/2006 7:25:19 PM PDT by blam

If we've got a missile, let's fire it into George Bush's window, say N Koreans

Sergey Soukhorukov in Pyongyang and Colin Freeman
(Filed: 25/06/2006)

In a land where anti-Western propaganda is the norm, one might have expected a triumphant state broadcast - or, perhaps, a rallying denunciation of "American lies".

But last week, as North Korea created a diplomatic storm over claims that it was preparing to test fire a missile that could hit the United States, television sets in Pyongyang were tuned into a rather different drama.

North Koreans have long been urged to hate the United States Instead of giving any details of the mounting crisis, state television broadcast the final episode of Mother, a turgid 22-part series based on a novel by the Soviet-era Russian novelist Maxim Gorky.

As with so much of life inside the world's last Stalinist state, the vast majority of North Korea's 23 million citizens remain completely in the dark about their nuclear weapons programme, or the international pariah status it has earned them.

Most have never heard of the regime's new Taephodong-2 long-range missile, which Washington claimed last week was being put in position for a test launch in the north east of the country, and which analysts fear is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead to America's west coast. Nor, seemingly, are they aware of the dire consequences that such a strike would invite.

"How is it, we really have an intercontinental rocket?" asked one 50-year-old diner in a Pyongyang restaurant, sporting a lapel pin of North Korea's leader, Kim Jong-il.

When informed of the missile's existence, his face lit up in anger. "In this case we should fire it at United States, right to the White House, in Bush's window."

The restaurant's waitress also looked blank when asked why so few North Koreans knew that their country was at the centre of a nuclear standoff.

"We are at the state of war with USA, and there are a lot of spies, traitors and counter-revolutionaries around," she said. "Our Dear Leader knows what he does, and if it's necessary to keep something secret, we will".

Western intelligence reports last week suggested that fuel tanks have been seen around a missile launch pad at Moosan-rhee, although analysts conceded that it was difficult to be certain on the basis of satellite photographs. Kim Jong-il's regime has said it is willing to talk to America about its missile concerns, but Washington has insisted that it will meet the North only for talks directly aimed at scrapping the weapons programme.

On Friday, US officials in Seoul, the capital of neighbouring South Korea, repeated warnings that a missile launch by the North could have serious repercussions. "We still hope that they recognise that launching that missile would only isolate them further, and that they will make the right decision and not launch the missile," an official said. China and Russia - Pyongyang's remaining key allies - have also urged caution.

Last week, the US activated its fledgling ground-based interceptor missile defence system as a precaution after seeing the activity on the missile site.

Pentagon officials declined to say whether they would try to shoot down any missile in the event of a test fire.

South Korea is now pushing for a summit in September between its President, Roh Moo-hyun, and President George W Bush, in an effort to resolve differences in dealing with North Korea. The Bush administration has sought to pressure the North, while Seoul has taken the path of reconciliation.

In the meantime, the North Korean media and government has observed a black-out on the situation.

Queries from Pyongyang's tiny pool of foreign correspondents - two Chinese and one Russian journalist - are routinely ignored, while even Russian and Chinese diplomats complain of being in the dark. Most diplomats believe that the reason for pushing ahead with such a controversial missile test would be to strengthen the regime's hands in talks and bring the US to the negotiating table.

"The recent developments here are staged to make Washington change its position, lift sanctions it has imposed on several North Korean companies, and start direct bilateral talks with Pyongyang," said a Russian diplomat.

"The regime suggested this to the US via their United Nations representative in New York, but it didn't work out. Condoleezza Rice [the US secretary of state] made it very clear in her speech last week that intimidation, and the threat of the missile launch, is a bad way to start a dialogue."

The ongoing nuclear crisis has effectively scuppered hopes that North Korea might finally end its era of international isolation, which began in 1948 when Kim Jong-il's father, Kim Il-Sung, pioneered the doctrine of Juche, or self-reliance. Over the past half-century that system has translated into a Communist personality cult surpassing that of Ceausescu's Romania or Hoxha's Albania, with human rights groups documenting widespread cases of torture, public executions, and slave labour.

Up to 200,000 people are believed to be in prison and about two million are thought to have died since the mid-1990s because of famine caused by economic mismanagement.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushs; fire; george; got; koreans; missile; n; proliferation; weve; window; yumyumtreebark
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1 posted on 06/24/2006 7:25:24 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
"How is it, we really have an intercontinental rocket?" asked one 50-year-old diner in a Pyongyang restaurant, sporting a lapel pin of North Korea's leader, Kim Jong-il.

Indeed. How is it the populous is not tearing up the joint, demanding to know why they have rockets, but no basic modern necessities like heat, electricity, food, and clean water.

2 posted on 06/24/2006 7:30:18 PM PDT by edpc
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To: blam

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82755
I got this link here a few days ago, and man it is the creepiest pics I ever saw, and most of them were NOT supposed to have been taken....


3 posted on 06/24/2006 7:30:45 PM PDT by meanie monster
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To: blam
There's only two things stopping you: fear and common sense.

060622-N-0000X-001 Pacific Ocean (June 22, 2006) - A Standard Missile Three (SM-3) is launched from the guided missile cruiser USS Shiloh (CG 67) during a joint Missile Defense Agency, U.S. Navy ballistic missile flight test. Two minutes later, the SM-3 intercepted a separating ballistic missile threat target, launched from the Pacific Missile Range Facility, Barking Sands, Kauai, Hawaii. The test was the seventh intercept, in eight program flight tests, by the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense. The maritime capability is designed to intercept short to medium-range ballistic missile threats in the midcourse phase of flight. U.S. Navy photo (RELEASED)


You guys are going to look mighty stupid when we shoot it down, and you Korean sloths don't have the range to hit GW Bush's window anyway.

4 posted on 06/24/2006 7:35:24 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: edpc
Sadly, their response is: "In this case we should fire it at United States, right to the White House, in Bush's window."
5 posted on 06/24/2006 7:36:01 PM PDT by JimSEA (America cannot have an exit strategy from the world.)
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To: edpc
How is it the populous is not tearing up the joint, demanding to know why they have rockets, but no basic modern necessities like heat, electricity, food, and clean water.

Perhaps they are so isolated, and deliberately so, that they have no frame of reference. Maybe it is an accepted common-knowledge truth in North Korea that you can defend the country against the unimaginable evils of the United States, or you can feed people and have conveniences, but not both at the same time.

But then, if you're a North Korean talking to outside media in North Korea, you say what you're expected to say.

6 posted on 06/24/2006 7:38:27 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

ping!


7 posted on 06/24/2006 7:39:50 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: edpc
How is it the populous is not tearing up the joint

That question was answered in the last paragraph:

Over the past half-century that system has translated into a Communist personality cult surpassing that of Ceausescu's Romania or Hoxha's Albania, with human rights groups documenting widespread cases of torture, public executions, and slave labour.

Got it ?

8 posted on 06/24/2006 7:42:46 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight ("The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step" - Lao Tzu)
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To: blam
The restaurant's waitress also looked blank when asked why so few North Koreans knew that their country was at the centre of a nuclear standoff.

And then said "would you like a doggy bag for your unfinished dog?"

9 posted on 06/24/2006 7:45:19 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Mr_Moonlight; Riley

My question was rhetorical.


10 posted on 06/24/2006 7:45:41 PM PDT by edpc
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To: blam

"In this case we should fire it at United States, right to the White House, in Bush's window."

And may our President Bush send one back to go right up your ass!


11 posted on 06/24/2006 7:46:20 PM PDT by Lucky2 (Isalm is the religion of satan.)
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To: blam

So, let me get this straight. We have an elected leader who many hate. North Korea is led by a total crazy in a country where I have heard the populace is several inches shorter than the Southern part of the penninsula due to 50 years of almost starvation while they built thier military.
Amazing.
How about we put one down Kim's window too? LOL!


12 posted on 06/24/2006 7:47:42 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: meanie monster
Fascinating link! I got a kick out of this statement:

In the hotel you can watch BBC,NTV (russian chan),and a couple of chinese channels . . .

I can't help but wonder why MSNBCNNPRABCBS isn't included.

13 posted on 06/24/2006 7:48:18 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: JimSEA
Sadly, their response is: "In this case we should fire it at United States, right to the White House, in Bush's window."

Sounds like what people on Liberty Post would say.

14 posted on 06/24/2006 7:49:33 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Apparently Being Mean to a Troll is Now Against the Rules.)
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To: Lucky2

"And may our President Bush send one back to go right up your ass!"

I think it would be many more than one.

They send one, N. Korea would be dust. Finished forever.


15 posted on 06/24/2006 7:50:31 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: blam
"We are at the state of war with USA...."

I am not sure what's sadder:

The fact these citizens are fed a litany of neverending propaganda on a daily basis, or that a NK waitress knows her country is still at war with the U.S. So few Americans realize the 1953 agreement was only a cease-fire.

16 posted on 06/24/2006 7:51:39 PM PDT by edpc
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To: blam; MurryMom; Liz; Howlin
...it was preparing to test fire a missile that could hit the United States...

And what, exactly, did the *Crintons do to prevent this?

17 posted on 06/24/2006 7:55:52 PM PDT by Libloather (They can't privatize Social Security but they can find a way to give it to illegal aliens...)
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To: edpc
My question was rhetorical.

My response wasn't.

However, for rhetoric's sake, why do these same international 'human rights groups' get completely ignored by the drive-by media whenever atrocities against the citizenry of other countries are cited? But a few small indiginities on captured terrorists by US troops gets plastered across the headlines like they were the second coming of Hitler?

18 posted on 06/24/2006 7:56:11 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight ("The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step" - Lao Tzu)
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To: blam
...which analysts fear is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead to America's west coast...

When I take a look at a globe the shortest route to the United States from North Korea is over the northern part of Alaska. And at a glance using that route, Chicago looks just about as close to North Korea as Los Angeles is. So when they say they could hit the west coast I don't see how that doesn't also mean they could also hit a large part of the rest of the United States.

19 posted on 06/24/2006 7:56:27 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: blam

And if they don't say it, they know they're headed off to the prison camp. If they're lucky.

This is news?


20 posted on 06/24/2006 7:58:35 PM PDT by mhx
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