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To: neverdem
What would you propose to do that hasn't been tried already? If it's just more of the same, that's not cutting it.

Are you saying legalize crack, cocaine, meth, pcp, lsd, etc? While we are at it, lets just do away with the entire judicial code, people ignore the laws anyway don't they?

28 posted on 07/06/2006 6:34:00 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Are you saying legalize crack, cocaine, meth, pcp, lsd, etc? While we are at it, lets just do away with the entire judicial code, people ignore the laws anyway don't they?

As I wrote: "What would you propose to do that hasn't been tried already? If it's just more of the same, that's not cutting it."

I wouldn't write off the entire judicial code, just those parts that generate profits for organized crime, generate funds for our islamofascist enemies, create more hostility and foreign policy dilemmas from Afghanistan to Bolivia, with many countries in between, corrupt law enforcement and cause less respect for our Constitution with the rights that it is supposed to guarantee.

IMHO, if there was ever a fools errand, it's the war on drugs as it is currently constituted. It was promoting a nanny/police state even before September 11, 2001. It has corrupted enough branches of government, if not all of them, so thoroughly that physicians are now brought to court if they are arbitrarily deemed to prescribe too little or too much. The DEA now de facto practices medicine.

The current arrangement that permits law enforcement to do almost anything it wants to, especially because it's for the children, is nothing more than the alcohol prohibition on steroids and exponentially worse. It's a law enforcement full employment program with unconstitutional property seizures without due process and a simultaneous war on guns.

The discussion has become so distorted that folks can't see the forest for the trees. It's generally recognized that the prohibition of coca and opium led to the black market distribution of the more expensive and concentrated derivatives, i.e. cocaine and heroin. Hallucinogens were also available naturally. Chemistry is here to stay. All other things being equal including criminal penalties, criminals tend to maximize profits. There's more bang for the buck with a concentrated product.

IMHO, I think most would agree that their increased cost led to intravenous drug abuse which also happens to spread disease either directly by needle sharing or having sexual relations. Yet when any politician or public health advocate proposes needle exchange programs, which have routinely demonstrated decreased incidence in the spread of HIV/AIDS, they are routinely denounced by political opportunists of almost all stripes.

The Founding Fathers had the wisdom to recognize the folly that is human nature when they wrote the Constitution for a federal government with limited powers. IMHO, if they were here today, they would congratulate themselves for the foresight to have written the Second Amendment in order to secure the liberty that they originally sought when they affirmed to, "mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor," in the Declaration of Independence.

"Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin

I can see sacrificing some liberties temporarily because we are at war, but not forever because fools might kill themselves by their own hands. Rant off.

29 posted on 07/06/2006 1:41:26 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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