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Dear Congressman Hoekstra,

In view of the leaks over national security to the NY Times, there is little wonder why the WH would be hesitant to the point of impenatrable silence to inform congress (notoriously leaky) about anti-terror programs.

Further, if the congress would show one tenth the backbone in sustaining their power balance against the breaches that the SCOTUS levels against them and their legislation as they show toward undermining the executive branch, the entire country and rest of western civilization would be much better off.

sheesh.

1 posted on 07/09/2006 9:22:42 AM PDT by prairiebreeze
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But Hoekstra's complaint was particularly significant since it came from a strong supporter of the administration's tactics.

Tactics which have saved lives, prevented attacks and nabbed terrorists. And which al-Reuters heartily disapproves of. ping

2 posted on 07/09/2006 9:23:56 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (It takes ideas and optimism to win elections. The DemocRATS have neither.)
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Imagine, a "penchant for secrecy" while fighting a war. Hard to believe, isn't it?


3 posted on 07/09/2006 9:24:04 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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Hi I am Congressman Hoekstra.

Make me look like an ass on WMD and I will whore it up for the press by trying to make you look bad.
5 posted on 07/09/2006 9:25:52 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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I saw Hoekstra on Fox News this morning and unfortunately, they neglected to ask him "Since this letter, which was confidential information between the Congress and White House was leaked from your committee, do you intend to investigate this leak and prosecute the leaker?"


6 posted on 07/09/2006 9:26:44 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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Indeed. Given the leaks from Congress, the White House would be derelict in its sworn duty if they exposed vital national security programs not to Congressional oversight but rather to the enemies of our country. Get your House in order first, Hoekstra.


7 posted on 07/09/2006 9:26:53 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Go home and fix Mexico)
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If there were actual Statesmen in the Legislature with the best interest of this country at heart rather than their own political futures I am sure the Administrative Branch would disclose more to them.
9 posted on 07/09/2006 9:29:46 AM PDT by msnimje (There is no way we can lose if we stay in Iraq and no way we can win if we cut and run.)
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And how did Hoekstra's jsut happen to reach the NYT

This is all BS and it smells to me


10 posted on 07/09/2006 9:30:16 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE&search=Democrats)
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Further, if the United States Congress would show one tenth the backbone in sustaining their power balance against the breaches that the SCOTUS Executive branch levels has leveled against them for the past 150 years and their legislation as they show toward undermining the executive branch, the entire country and rest of western civilization would be much better off.

There, fixed it for you...By law the Executive Branch is required to inform the Legislative Branch on certain issues. This was not done. Just good to see some Republicans haven't drunk all the partisan koolaid and are realizing how far the Executive Branch has moved from the original intent of the Framers

13 posted on 07/09/2006 9:39:30 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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This is bullshit. W well knows that when he "briefs" Congress, we will read it in the NYTimes next day - or same day on the net.

Dear Congressman Hoekstra is eat up with Potomac Fever. Sheesh; what part of war do these dweebs not understand?

14 posted on 07/09/2006 9:43:58 AM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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There are only a handful of Congress members that cannot resist showboating on tv. I thought Hoekstra was above this-apparently not.
I do not want national security measures and programs discussed in public or printed in the paper- especially during war time.
To our nation's shame, there are too few Congress members who understand this concept.


20 posted on 07/09/2006 9:54:07 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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...until whistle-blowers...

They are not whistle-blowers. They're political hacks with an anti-America agenda, and unconvicted felons.

21 posted on 07/09/2006 9:56:04 AM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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Is it ANY WONDER Bush has to keep things SECRET?

Geesh!


22 posted on 07/09/2006 9:59:25 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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Yep, the Bush Admin should have thoroughly cleaned house, starting with State Dept. I'm sure if the truth be known these whistleblowers are leftovers from the clintoonian administration.


25 posted on 07/09/2006 10:05:04 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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Glad they briefed the SWIFT program to congress.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


26 posted on 07/09/2006 10:08:48 AM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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He said he did not expect to be briefed about everything intelligence agencies were doing but at least one of the secret activities was a major program which Congress definitely should have been informed about.

What the White House should brief on and what the White House has to brief on are two different things. Unless there is something that says when Congress has to be informed then I don't think Hoekstra has legal grounds to complain.

28 posted on 07/09/2006 10:14:04 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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They can't be briefed on every program. Hoekstra obviously is aligning himself with the RINOs of late, so I am assuming that the program was a piddly program that only Hoekstra thought was "major."


31 posted on 07/09/2006 10:23:19 AM PDT by Brilliant
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What part of "executive" and "legislative" don't you understand, Pete.

It's all well and good for the President to keep Congress informed if he wants to in order to foster good relations and to ensure funding of programs that he wants. But he doesn't have to, and Congressional comments that imply that it is his job to bring them into the loop on administrative matters should be shot down.

Contrary to what the press says, Bush is ceding a ton of executive powers during his administration, not enlarging them. He has acquiesced to a number of judicial decisions that are patently without merit and which attempt to insert the judiciary into the commander in chief role. He has let the legislature force him to make them "co-executives". He has let the MSM pressure him into appointing a special prosecutor that is not authorized by law and who has since gone off on a wild goose chase. He has left Clinton holdovers in office far too long, and let them wage war against the civilian leadership (Tenet at CIA and all the careerists at State). He has refused to enforce laws that make criminal the disclosure of secrets. He has refused to fight back when people called him a liar and misrepresented the basis for the Iraq war. He has refused to use the veto pen once, even signing the unconstitutional campaign finance reform, which only the O'Connor court could have found constitutional. He smirked "I have political capital" and then proceeded to waste it on a failed SS reform that had no political support from day 1.

This is the incredible shrinking presidency. It will take a strong personality to restore the powers of this office, to tell someone like Hoekstra what's what, to tell the Supreme Court to go to hell when they try to interfere with the conduct of a war, and to assert the will of the president over the bureaucracies. Future presidents will have people saying, "but Bush never did that...you tyrant!"

35 posted on 07/09/2006 11:01:34 AM PDT by Defiant (MSM are holding us hostage. Vote Dems into power, or they will let the terrorists win.)
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.........White House kept "major program" secret......

Good. As it should be.

41 posted on 07/09/2006 11:48:35 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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And WHY are we -- and all the terrorists of the world -- reading about this in the newspapers, AGAIN?

We better start prosecuting andpunishing those who leak national security info -- even if they are in Congress --, or NOTHING will be secret anymore and our most important secrets could be had for the price of an issue of the NY Times.


48 posted on 07/09/2006 12:24:37 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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The actual letter is here.

Ally Told Bush Spying Projects Might Be Illegal [programs that have not been publicly revealed....]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1662461/posts

49 posted on 07/09/2006 12:36:27 PM PDT by TexKat
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