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Reed Professor Opens Minds on Islam, culture (barf)
The Oregonian ^ | 7/10/06 | nancy haught

Posted on 07/10/2006 12:40:15 PM PDT by Wicket

Kambiz GhaneaBassiri is a Muslim. He has a doctorate in Islamic studies from Harvard University and teaches at Reed College. He has one book to his credit and is halfway through writing his second, a history of Islam in the United States since Colonial times. . .

He is smart, articulate, thoughtful and innovative. His dark hair and goatee are perfectly trimmed. He seems born to button-down shirts and khaki slacks. . .

Americans often don't realize that Islam, like Christianity, is incredibly diverse in its expressions, he says. Christians across the world don't agree on every social issue, and neither do Muslims. . .

It is wrong, he says, to draw conclusions about Islam based only on one reading of the Quran, on the statements of a few Muslim leaders or on the culture of one group of believers. It is inaccurate to isolate an issue -- such as Western culture, democracy or the role of women -- and suggest that Muslims have one response to it. . .

"I don't like talking about Islam in political terms," he says. For that reason, he declines to comment on Osama bin Laden and Zacarias Moussaoui. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oregon; War on Terror
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Professor at Reed College, home of a preponderance of the lunatic left. Enjoy - sarcasm alert
1 posted on 07/10/2006 12:40:18 PM PDT by Wicket
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"This is a remarkable thing," says Steven M. Wasserstrom, who teaches religion at Reed. "To do what used to be more or less routine liberal theology -- well, for Jews and Christians, it's still not that problematic -- but to do it as a Muslim requires a lot of courage."

Well, duh.

2 posted on 07/10/2006 12:43:07 PM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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He is smart, articulate, thoughtful and innovative

Aaaaaw, SO smart. SO thoughtful.

Was he SO thoughful as to condem the attacks on 9/11?

Some how, I doubt it.

3 posted on 07/10/2006 12:46:03 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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Opens the mind-

by chopping it off at the neck...

4 posted on 07/10/2006 12:46:47 PM PDT by Nachum
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Americans often don't realize that Islam, like Christianity, is incredibly diverse in its expressions, he says. Christians across the world don't agree on every social issue, and neither do Muslims. . .

If his target audience is the madrassas, and children under 14, I predict huge success for his writings.

Otherwise, he is wasting his time.

The Muslim Mass Murderers have no religious peers in the last 800 years. Certainly not in the last 20 years anywhere. No other religion can make that claim.

You can't sugar coat islam effectively when dealing with informed adults.

5 posted on 07/10/2006 12:47:27 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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history of Islam in the United States since Colonial times. . .

I'd be interested to hear what he has to say about this. I noticed that the group from FL who wished to blow up the Sears bldg was a Moorish National Group which believes that Moroccans were in the US before Europeans. You can't just dismiss this stuff. I do genealogy in Virginia and I had been reading some of this on the internet well before 9/11. Little did I realize then that the foundation was being laid for US/World domination. Muslims who write about Islam from that period should be carefully evaluated.

6 posted on 07/10/2006 12:48:32 PM PDT by twigs
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I don't like talking about Islam in political terms

Well, Mohammed sure didn't mind. In fact, he was pretty keen on the political aspects of Islam.

For an Islamic scholar to ignore the political system implicit in Islam, is to brand himself as being very unserious about his profession.
7 posted on 07/10/2006 12:50:45 PM PDT by horse_doc
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Reed College. Namesake of John Reed, a Communist buried at the Kremlin wall.

Portland:

8 posted on 07/10/2006 12:57:15 PM PDT by CT
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If he is an islamist he belongs dead.

How many "American" muslims are islamist?

9 posted on 07/10/2006 12:58:21 PM PDT by onedoug
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It is wrong, he says, to draw conclusions about Islam based only on one reading of the Quran, on the statements of a few Muslim leaders or on the culture of one group of believers.

I've made my judgments based on Islamic actions in Munich in 1972, on the action the Iranian Revolutionary government who illegally took over the US Embassy, Sharia Law which prescribes stoning to death for adultery and homosexuality, the Taliban killing people for getting hair cuts, the first World Trade Center bombing, the shoe bomber, the London Subway, the Spanish railroad train, the blowing up of innocent civilians in Israel in Allah's name, the cutting off of Daniel Pearl's head, the cutting off of Nicholas Berg's head, the cartoon reaction, and finally but not lastly, the brutal attack of innocents on 9/11. All done in Allah's name. I didn't make my judgment of Islam based on a few dopey words from the Qua ran or the words of a few, but rather the actions of many against innocents in Allah's name.
10 posted on 07/10/2006 1:00:49 PM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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"It is wrong, he says, to draw conclusions about Islam based only on one reading of the Quran, on the statements of a few Muslim leaders or on the culture of one group of believers."

Likewise, it is wrong to draw conclusions about Islam from a mere several scores of televised beheadings, thousands of terror incidents with tens of thousands of civilian casualties, hundreds of stonings, the chopping off by axe of hundreds of hands, hundreds of honor killings, parades of people whipping themselves bloody with chains, the glorification of suicide to the point where it's the national pastime of an entire quasi-country, and a culture which has given the world utterly nothing since its inception but suffering, war, torture and death.

Hey, OK, I like to keep an open mind.


11 posted on 07/10/2006 1:01:15 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Funny taglines are value plays.)
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"a Moorish National Group which believes that Moroccans were in the US before Europeans"

There's some islamic BS about the Algonquin Indians as well, very serious stuff, since that gives them the right to destroy and take over America according to their rock god and pedophile prophet.


12 posted on 07/10/2006 1:02:39 PM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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That's a bit of an urban legend, actually. The college is named after a distant relative of that John Reed, I believe:

Reed College was founded in 1908, and its first classes were held in 1911. Reed is named for Oregon pioneers Simeon and Amanda Reed. Simeon Reed had been an entrepreneur in trade on the Columbia River; in his will he suggested that his wife could "devote some portion of my estate to benevolent objects, or to the cultivation, illustration, or development of the fine arts in the city of Portland, or to some other suitable purpose, which shall be of permanent value and contribute to the beauty of the city and to the intelligence, prosperity, and happiness of the inhabitants." Amanda Reed followed that suggestion in her will by setting up a board of trustees to found an institution of learning in Portland, with no limits other than an insistence on equality and secularism.

But I say this as a Reed dropout - the place is just as loony as you say. Maybe more so.

13 posted on 07/10/2006 1:02:41 PM PDT by Argus
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Perhaps he was talking about the "shores of Tripoli" business.


14 posted on 07/10/2006 1:03:35 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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"Moorish National Group which believes that Moroccans were in the US before Europeans"

I guess the thinking is, they touched it first, so they have first dibs. Worked in Kindergarten; why not give it a shot?


15 posted on 07/10/2006 1:10:32 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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If there is a more Leftwing college than Reed I'm not aware of it.


16 posted on 07/10/2006 1:13:16 PM PDT by kjo
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One of their reasons, IIRC, is that there are drawings of some Indians wearing hats that look like the fez from Morocco. It is possible that Muslims did visit here before the Europeans came to stay--but then, probably so did most peoples. There is an interesting description in one of Morison's books about a rotted hull Columbus found on one of the Caribbean islands that could fit the description of a dhow. Not sure I spelled that right. But it certainly doesn't mean that they discovered America. Archeology in the Middle East has become a muddle because of these types of claims. I suspect that they want the same thing to happen here. Ugh. That's the reason I'm interested in what this man has to say.


17 posted on 07/10/2006 1:15:14 PM PDT by twigs
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I hope this putz goes to Somalia, the new islamic ruling class said if you have a goatee to shave it off or they'll kill you.


18 posted on 07/10/2006 1:15:19 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (The murderous cult of islam is on the march and the war the liberals want to wage is against GW)
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Or at least have a claim to it.


19 posted on 07/10/2006 1:16:15 PM PDT by twigs
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I noticed that the group from FL who wished to blow up the Sears bldg was a Moorish National Group which believes that Moroccans were in the US before Europeans.

Which is entirely possible, just as it is for the Welsh, Bretons, Galicians, Irish and others who have been proposed as crossing the Atlantic before Columbus.

They just didn't affect much of anything by their presence.

20 posted on 07/10/2006 1:24:07 PM PDT by Restorer
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