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For Some Auburn Athletes, Courses With No Classes
The New York Times ^ | 07/13/06 | PETE THAMEL

Posted on 07/13/2006 5:15:45 PM PDT by Pokey78

A graphic popped up on James Gundlach’s television during an Auburn football game in the fall of 2004, and he could not believe his eyes.

One of the university’s prominent football players was being honored as a scholar athlete for his work as a sociology major. Professor Gundlach, the director of the Auburn sociology department, had never had the player in class. He asked the two other full-time sociology professors about the player, and they could not recall having had him either.

So Professor Gundlach looked at the player’s academic files, which led him to the discovery that many Auburn athletes were receiving high grades from the same professor for sociology and criminology courses that required no attendance and little work.

Eighteen members of the 2004 Auburn football team, which went undefeated and finished No. 2 in the nation, took a combined 97 hours of the courses during their careers. The offerings resemble independent study and include core subjects like statistics, theory and methods, which normally require class instruction.

The professor for those players and many other athletes was Prof. Thomas Petee, the sociology department’s highest-ranking member. The former star running back Carnell (Cadillac) Williams, who is now playing in the National Football League, said the only two classes he took during the spring semester of his senior year were one-on-one courses with Professor Petee. At one point, Professor Petee was carrying the workload of more than three and a half professors, an academic schedule that his colleagues said no one could legitimately handle.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: auburn; collegefootball; corruptconference; justwinbaby; sec; typicalsec
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1 posted on 07/13/2006 5:15:49 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78

Sociology is a joke anyway, so...


2 posted on 07/13/2006 5:18:18 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Pokey78

Hah! Pikers I say. The OU teams of Barry Switzer made no pretense of going to class and readily committed mayhem including rape and murder. Auburn has a ways to go before they achieve OU's level of notoriety.


3 posted on 07/13/2006 5:22:06 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: saganite

We had some easier than not classes for jocks at ND, but nothing like this! Very impressive.


4 posted on 07/13/2006 5:26:28 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: Pokey78

Someone on NY Times is a Crimson Tide fan, apparently.


5 posted on 07/13/2006 5:27:10 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (I would never belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member.)
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To: saganite

You are comparing 2004 to the 80's -- what a joke! OU players go to class now!


6 posted on 07/13/2006 5:31:31 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Elect Bob Sullivan OK Governor -- Throw out Dem Gov DoLittle Henry in 2006!)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Yeah. Blame Bama. (rolling eyes)


7 posted on 07/13/2006 5:35:01 PM PDT by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: Pokey78

No, that was a joke. I am not blaming a Tide fan...for this.


8 posted on 07/13/2006 5:38:18 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (I would never belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Nice try, but if you read the article, the legwork on this piece was done by a sociology professor FROM AU.


9 posted on 07/13/2006 5:40:57 PM PDT by jra
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To: irish guard
We had some easier than not classes for jocks at ND, but nothing like this! Very impressive.

I know what you mean about the easier than not classes. My freshman year (not at ND), by pure dumb "luck" I took two classes (one in sociology and one in economics) that were filled by the athletic scholarship crowd... everybody gets an A - "whoohoo".

I sort of think it's better overall to let them sign up for independent study sections rather than to pull the standard down for whole sections.

10 posted on 07/13/2006 5:43:46 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Pokey78
Ole Miss is now happy that Tommy Tupervile removed his sorry ass as their head football coach.
11 posted on 07/13/2006 5:45:09 PM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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So when do we get the expose on the joke 3-year sociology degree that most of the Duke basketball players are getting? Oh, that's right, I forgot - Duke is in the untouchable ACC. Gotta keep going after those SEC schools.


12 posted on 07/13/2006 5:47:23 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Meet the new dictators of America.....Bill Keller, James Risen, Eric Lichtblau, and Dana Priest)
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To: delacoert

While there were some easier classes, if the guy was a Business Finance major, he had to do the classwork and it was not easy. ND does not have Physical Education majors or anything even remotely like that, so the players still had to do the work. By and large, most of the players were not stupid.


13 posted on 07/13/2006 5:52:53 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Surprised the NYTs would print this. By their definition isn't this just affirmative action?


14 posted on 07/13/2006 5:53:48 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Pokey78

Why don't they just stop the pretense and just have a degree in sports or something. Really..think about it...


15 posted on 07/13/2006 5:54:50 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Pokey78

Why don't they just stop the pretense and just have a degree in sports or something. Really..think about it...


16 posted on 07/13/2006 5:54:51 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Pokey78

Why don't they just stop the pretense and just have a degree in sports or something. Really..think about it...


17 posted on 07/13/2006 5:54:53 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: A_perfect_lady
Sociology is a joke anyway, so...

Simple concepts made difficult by people with far too much time on their hands.

18 posted on 07/13/2006 5:57:37 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Folks at the Univ of Tennessee clearly have no room to point fingers on this issue not that I'm accusing you of being a Tennessee fan.


19 posted on 07/13/2006 5:58:53 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Hildy
because people who major in sports tend to triple-post.
20 posted on 07/13/2006 5:58:55 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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