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Feel free to send your comments to Kindlon. I am having problems digesting my breakfast after reading this.
1 posted on 07/16/2006 7:01:44 AM PDT by sageb1
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To: sageb1

Free Mumia. OJ was innocent. The marines are guilty.
For "defense attorney" this guy drops the term "alleged" very easily when condemning US marines at Haditha for what has been widely reported to be a terrorist set up)


2 posted on 07/16/2006 7:05:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: sageb1
Like Uncle Billy in It's A Wonderful Life, this one never grew up...

What's worse, he reproduced. I thought there were laws against that sort of thing...

3 posted on 07/16/2006 7:07:31 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: sageb1

Typical liberal. Conveniently forgets (or deliberately lies) about Clinton being the one who started the no coffin picture thing. And I heard?read recently that proportionately the members of congress have as many or more "children" in combat as any sub-group.


6 posted on 07/16/2006 7:14:08 AM PDT by Hazcat
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To: sageb1

So what else is new? The guy is simply another DemocRAT, Pro-Terrorist attention whore. You get all types claiming they did this and that but rarely ever verified. These guys would sell their own mother to Bin Ladin if it meant they didn't have to deal with the harsh realities of this long WOT we are required to engage in.

Even Benedict Arnold was a war hero for this nation before he went traitor for his own personal gain.

Either you are with us, or you are against us. It's just that simple.


7 posted on 07/16/2006 7:15:12 AM PDT by Retired Army Special Forces
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To: sageb1

These nutcases haven't even figured out yet that we are winning. In math terms, is that a loser squared? (when one is such a loser that they don't know that they are winning)


8 posted on 07/16/2006 7:17:34 AM PDT by American in Singapore (Bill Clinton: The Human Stain)
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To: sageb1
it is pitiful a former marine would now have 'spastic jollies' over an episode where the truth is still yet unknown

It would appear this former marine enjoys trashing his marine son and other marines. So many military so little trash talking time about that military, is not only kerry, kennedy, murtha, and this former marine's mantra but others as well. Sick and disgusting.

9 posted on 07/16/2006 7:18:00 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ('No' worked so well, perhaps another word is in order?)
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To: sageb1

40 years ago, Viet Nam was the war being offered as a chance to "do what you can do for your country". An ill-chosen vehicle for "contributing", as it turned out. The US was keeping the fighting just low-key enough to prevent the Chinese from entering the fray, which turned out to be not enough to win. Militarily, our armed services could attain the objective, but a political decision to not take advantage of a tactical superiority simply gave it back to the enemy, who openly laughed in our faces, and obeyed no rules of civilized conduct.

This is not the same war, and this is not the same goal. There, it was merely "containment" of the spread of Communism (a vain enterprise, as it turned out). Communism was defeated, not because we played "gentlemanly" war games, but because they were finally pushed to the wall and could no longer maintain the pace economically. They saw the end with the development of the "Strategic Defense Initiative", or "Star Wars", concept. The cost of keeping up just got to be too much.

That is what you do for your country.


10 posted on 07/16/2006 7:22:10 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: sageb1
I guess I differ with him on this narrow proposition--I think during a war, it ought to be very difficult to ever convict a soldier of any crime relating to his conduct in the military operations area.

One of the many deficiencies in management of the engagement by the Neo Cons is their failure to clearly define the enemy and propose that Congress ought to Declare War as provided for by the Constitution.

So as to the rest of his analysis, there really isn't any room for argument that the Bush II Administration and its agents have hopelessly mismanaged conduct of the engagement and we ought to install some responsible leadership which would clean things up. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the Dems offer much in the way of leadership either.

11 posted on 07/16/2006 7:34:57 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: sageb1

Mr. Kindlon doesn't realize that, when he was in Vietnam, he was sold out by the very same people who are now objecting to the Iraq war.


12 posted on 07/16/2006 7:36:19 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: sageb1

As a former Marine I say - Semper Fi and STFU!


13 posted on 07/16/2006 7:40:36 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: sageb1
Terence L. Kindlon ... once was a Marine sergeant and was wounded in Vietnam during the Tet Offensive in 1968. "They've ... declared the Geneva Conventions quaint and thus inoperative.."

Uh.. gee 'Sarge'. Now exactly which countries have abided by the Geneva Conventions as to POWs? Lets look back shall we...

The bottom line is that 3, that's three countries have followed the Geneva Conventions as to treatment of POWs:
  1. The USA
  2. The UK
  3. Germany during WWII (SS excluded)
Ergo 'sarge' if that doesn't prove that the Geneva Conventions are 'quaint and thus inoperative' I don't know what does.

And 'sarge', your lucky that when you were wounded, you weren't captured by Charlie - you'd be dead Jim.

15 posted on 07/16/2006 7:58:49 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: North Coast Conservative

Jar Head Ping.


18 posted on 07/16/2006 8:33:52 AM PDT by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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