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London Airline Bombing Plot News (updated 4:05 pm ET)
Counterterrorismblog.org ^ | August 10, 2006 | Andrew Cochran

Posted on 08/10/2006 1:49:25 PM PDT by John Lenin

London Airline Bombing Plot News (updated 4:05 pm ET)

By Andrew Cochran

ABC News: Three alleged ringleaders have been identified; two recently traveled to Pakistan and later received money wired to them from Pakistan, reportedly to purchase tickets for the suicide bombers. Sources identify the three, now in custody, as Rashid Rauf, Mohammed al-Ghandra, and Ahmed al Khan. Fox News at 3 pm ET:"British authorities are 'urgently' seeking the arrests of up to 10 more suspects in the terrorist plot uncovered early Thursday morning to blow up U.S.-bound flights with liquid explosives carried onto planes via carry-on luggage." Twenty-four main suspects are now in custody. Fox News again: "(A)n Islamic militant arrested near the Afghan-Pakistan border several weeks ago provided a lead that played a role in "unearthing the plot," that helped authorities arrest suspects in Britain." AP reports that the were targeting as many as 10 flights, and "plotters hoped to stage a dry run within two days," and "the actual attack would have followed within days."

Michelle Malkin's and Brendan Loy's blogs included links to many stories overnight on this plot. See Walid Phares' post on this plot with his early analysis and incisive questions, and Evan Kohlmann's post today on Al Qaeda's use of liquid explosives for airliners. Here is the statement by the Homeland Security Department on the raised threat level to Severe, or Red, for commercial flights originating in the UK bound for the United States, with the threat raised to Orange for all flights within or bound for the US. MSNBC: "U.S. intelligence has been working closely with the British on the investigation, which has been ongoing for months," and "These officials described a threat aimed at United, American and Continental Air Lines, and flights to the major summer tourist destinations of New York, Washington and California." Fox News: "A U.S. intelligence official said the plotters had hoped to target flights to major airports in New York, Washington and California." All commentary points to the similarity to the failed Al Qaeda Bojinka plot in 1995 to blow up airliners. Fox News again: "A senior U.S. counterterrorism official said authorities believe dozens of people — possibly as many as 50 — were involved in the plot."

Press conference with DHS Secretary Chertoff, Att. Gen. Gonzales, & FBI Director Mueller at 8 am ET: Well-planned and well-advanced plot with significant number of operatives - very concrete steps underway and suspects had accumulated capabilities to carry out plot - british authorities pursued this for some time but in last two weeks, focus on US targets appeared and plan appeared to have accelerated - "quite close" to execution phase - no indication of US plotters who would have intersected with UK plotters - would not give a number of airliners but "multiple" - shortly before arrests, suspects focused on UK-US routes - can't say whether 9/11 anniversary a factor or whether they would have waited that long - explosives designed into beverages and other liquids, electronics, and other common objects, with possibility of bringing benign components onboard and then assembling them - "quite sophisticated" - will not discuss suspects' nationalities now, but this group was "very skilled and very capable" - suggestive of Al Qaeda plot but not certain and reminiscent of 1995 plot (Bojinka) - arrests have significantly disrupted the threat but investigation ongoing in UK and here - no liquids or gels allowed in carry-on baggage.

NBC News' Lisa Myers reported that one or more suspects had traveled to Pakistan, where they received some training. MSNBC's Bob Windrem reported that two persons were arrested in Pakistan in connection with this plot, most of the suspects are of Pakistani origin (but all suspects are British nationals), and Pakistani intel services assisted UK agencies in the investigation (also reported in the London Times and confirmed by Pakistani authorities). He also reports multiple plotters would have boarded each aircraft with components combined inflight. The plotters looked for flights online in the past few weeks, leading UK investigators to move towards the arrests. ABC News: They "planned to conceal their liquid or gel explosives inside a modified sports beverage drink container and trigger the device with the flash from a disposable camera."

"US News & World Reports" reports that "At least some of the suspects had ties to those involved in the July 7, 2005, coordinated bombings on the London subways" and "Terrorists plotting to blow up American planes headed from the United Kingdom to the United States were planning to smuggle hydrogen peroxide based improvised liquid/slurry explosives in modified sports drinks bottles."

President Bush at 11:50 am ET: "We are safer than we were prior to 9/11," but we're obviously not completely safe because people still plot against us. "It's a mistake to believe there is no threat aginst the United States."

Walid Phares on MSNBC this morning: Biggest attack network in history of Al Qaeda - number of jihadists has grown from 1 shoe bomber to 7 in London attacks to at least 21, with base in UK. This would have required a support network of over 100, perhaps 150. AQ leaders have been threatening attacks in their statements for months, indicating their involvement in planning and execution.

Evan Kohlmann on MSNBC: AQ training camps near Pak-Afghan border used for 7/7 bombers. This plot "smacks of Al Qaeda through and through," due to the number of people involved and the sophistication of the explosives. Two kinds of Al Qaeda splinter groups: "wannabes" and actual affiliates (official or unofficial) - one of the latter announced alliance with Al Qaeda last week (see my post on the Egyptian Islamic Group, aka Gamaa Islamiya).

Magnus Ranstorp is quoted by MSNBC that this “could very well have been an attempt at ’the Big One.”’

Lorenzo Vidino reminded me of this story from London a few months ago: "Abu Hamza fanatics are urging fresh suicide attacks on passenger jets, using mini-bombs in pens and disposable cameras. The call is aired on an website run by supporters of the jailed hook-handed cleric. It recommends the use of a high-powered explosive dubbed Mother of Satan, which is of the same type used by the July 7 bombers.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; bojinka; bombingplot; eurabia; globaljihad; holywar; jihadineurope; jihadists; londonairlineplot; londonbombingplot; projectbojinka; terrorism; terroristbombing; terrorists; timeline; victory; waronterror; waronterrorism; whywefight; wot
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More tidbits of info on the bombing plot.
1 posted on 08/10/2006 1:49:26 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

"Abu Hamza fanatics are urging fresh suicide attacks on passenger jets, using mini-bombs in pens and disposable cameras. The call is aired on an website run by supporters of the jailed hook-handed cleric. It recommends the use of a high-powered explosive dubbed Mother of Satan, which is of the same type used by the July 7 bombers.

Isn't it time for ol' Cap'n Hook to have a convenient mass coronary?(hint hint)


2 posted on 08/10/2006 1:53:12 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: John Lenin

If they can just nuke that entire region in Waristan or whatever it is called, most of his crap will go away.


3 posted on 08/10/2006 1:53:19 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: John Lenin

My thanks John. I stayed up til 4am with this and been busy today and you have capsuled it up to date very well. Imagine the rest of the plotters are scurrying now like the cowardly rats they are.


4 posted on 08/10/2006 1:56:18 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: daybreakcoming

It's a great site I stumbled onto in the last week.


5 posted on 08/10/2006 1:57:38 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Why are they called suicide bombers? Did they buy all the available seats on the planes? They are freakin' homicidal lunatics. Sure wish the MSM would call it like it is.


6 posted on 08/10/2006 1:58:13 PM PDT by grellis (I don't know, let me ask my I Ching)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
There are a lot of different source weblinks in this thread and the gist of the plot and details.

No media "bias" thread here, just the "facts".

Thought some might be interested in a good "one-stop shop" (even if it is multi-sourced).

7 posted on 08/10/2006 1:58:41 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: kaktuskid

Canadian Plane headed for Reagan diverted to Baltimore...Dogs are boarding now. Fox News


8 posted on 08/10/2006 2:02:17 PM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: John Lenin
...plotters hoped to stage a dry run...

...explosives designed into beverages and other liquids, electronics, and other common objects, with possibility of bringing benign components onboard and then assembling them...

This makes me think of that Annie Jacobsen Terror in the Skies piece... and all the related incidents that her story brought up.
9 posted on 08/10/2006 2:02:21 PM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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To: John Lenin

mark for later read


10 posted on 08/10/2006 2:02:34 PM PDT by eyespysomething (There is no such thing as global warming. Chuck Norris was cold, so he turned the sun up.)
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To: John Lenin

Who woulda thunk guys with names like Rashid Rauf, Mohammed al-Ghandra, and Ahmed al Khan would be involved in a plot like this. It sounds like profiling to me.


11 posted on 08/10/2006 2:02:47 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: John Lenin

They would have needed to use 80-90% peroxide. And handling it is far from easy. More specifically, if the container with it were subjected to intense ultrasound, peroxide would start rapidly decomposing with the release of superheated steam. Thus sonicators could be added to the luggage screening machines lineup.


12 posted on 08/10/2006 2:03:57 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: John Lenin

Thank God for the Brits!


13 posted on 08/10/2006 2:04:25 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Thrusher

Exactly - I've been trying all day to remember the name of that article. Thanks.


14 posted on 08/10/2006 2:08:18 PM PDT by iceskater (One person's mess is another person's filing system.)
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To: John Lenin

save for later tonight


15 posted on 08/10/2006 2:12:25 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: iceskater
Exactly - I've been trying all day to remember the name of that article. Thanks.

I just did a little research and found out that she did a whole book about her experiences called Terror in the Skies: Why 9-11 Could Happen Again. And the Women's Wall Street Journal continues to run a Terror in the Skies series.
16 posted on 08/10/2006 2:12:42 PM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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To: John Lenin
"(A)n Islamic militant arrested near the Afghan-Pakistan border several weeks ago provided a lead that played a role in "unearthing the plot," that helped authorities arrest suspects in Britain."

I sure hope they didn't make him feel uncomfortable in any way.

Lando

17 posted on 08/10/2006 2:13:21 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (For what cause would a liberal go to war? (Revolutions don't count))
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To: TET1968
Just heard on the local radio....An Air Canada flight, diverted because of a suspicious liquid.
18 posted on 08/10/2006 2:14:23 PM PDT by fanfan (The MSM has no clothes.)
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To: John Lenin

mark


19 posted on 08/10/2006 2:15:11 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower Traffic Keep Right)
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To: John Lenin

Great bit of information. Thanks for posting it. BTTT


20 posted on 08/10/2006 2:17:35 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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