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U.S. Shift Kicked Off Frantic Diplomacy at U.N. [The making of a cease fire]
The New York Times ^ | August 14, 2006 | WARREN HOGE

Posted on 08/14/2006 10:58:29 AM PDT by Sabramerican

When Israel began its counterattack on Hezbollah one month ago, the Bush administration backed the Israeli plan to destroy the militia and its arsenal of rockets, resisting efforts by France and other allies to call for a cease-fire.

But as the assault wore on and it became evident that Hezbollah was a far more fearsome and skilled adversary than Israel had first thought — and as Lebanese civilian casualties mounted — American policy moved more urgently toward seeking an immediate political solution.

That shift, recounted by senior administration officials, led to one of the most dramatic bouts of diplomacy that the United Nations Security Council has witnessed in years. Whether it leads to peace in southern Lebanon remains unclear. But what is certain is that negotiators in a half-dozen countries took part in a rare high-wire act.

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As evidence of how committed the United States had become to the notion that an Israeli military victory was no longer an option, Ms. Rice and other administration officials posed pointed questions to the Israelis about the likely consequences of an intensified military push. And in a rare pointed remark clearly aimed at Israel, Tony Snow, the White House spokesman, said Wednesday, “We do not want escalations.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; axisofappeasement; bush; geopolitics; israel; rice; un; us
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The New Bush Doctrine:

“We do not want escalations.” in a war against terrorists.

1 posted on 08/14/2006 10:58:32 AM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: Sabramerican

Hezbollah may be fearsome, but they are not particularly skilled. No more so than some thug who keeps firing off a sawed-off shotgun from the hip.


2 posted on 08/14/2006 11:04:06 AM PDT by alloysteel (My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling, but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places.)
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To: Sabramerican

"We dont really mean this is a war against terrorists and those states that sponsor them","We were just trying to gin you sheeple up a little ", "We are just a placeholder presidency and are quite clueless on how to win this WOT", "Now we have imposed the scrotum check at all airports, "we will do whatever it takes to keep our people safe, untill the next batch of our citizens are killed""....


3 posted on 08/14/2006 11:04:31 AM PDT by samadams2000
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To: Sabramerican
But as the assault wore on and it became evident that Hezbollah was a far more fearsome and skilled adversary than Israel had first thought

Firing years old katyusha rockets from behind women and children is considered fearsome and skilled? ...only from the Helzbolla friendly NYTimes.

4 posted on 08/14/2006 11:05:40 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Sabramerican

I don't bother getting a password for the New York Slimes but any time they are praising your diplomacy you know you screwed up. Caroline Glick wrote that she was told the Bush people got tired of waiting for the Israelis to get their act together and decided to stop taking the beating they were taking diplomatically supporting the Israeli war effort. That sounds like a reasonable analysis.


5 posted on 08/14/2006 11:06:01 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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The New Bush Doctrine: “We do not want escalations.” in a war against terrorists.

In a larger context, that's probably the correct approach. If Israel gets bogged down in Lebanon, it makes the whole region much more unstable -- which is not only to Israel's detriment, but also to ours.

6 posted on 08/14/2006 11:06:51 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Sabramerican

If Olmert didn't want to fight all out, Bush's hands were tied...


7 posted on 08/14/2006 11:08:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Sabramerican
I hate the login process at the Times website but I'm guessing, based on past experience, that it contains a lot of "quotes" and details from anonymous officials allege real administration officials were thinking.

That shift, recounted by [anonymous] senior administration officials, led to one of the most dramatic bouts of diplomacy that the United Nations Security Council has witnessed in years.

So I'll placemark the article in the event I have time to go look at it on their website later...

8 posted on 08/14/2006 11:08:57 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: alloysteel
but they are not particularly skilled

Their skill lies in being able to convince women to sacrifice themselves and their children as human shields.

Actually, I am cautiously hopeful of the resolution. With 30,000 new troops in there they may be able to slowly weed out the scum. We'll see.

9 posted on 08/14/2006 11:08:59 AM PDT by what's up
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To: piasa

"allege" => alleging


10 posted on 08/14/2006 11:09:44 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: onyx

May answer some of the questions you've been asking about the cease fire.

In my opinion, the Bush Administration, not getting immediate gratification, cut off Israel at the knees.

It will come back to cripple the US too.


11 posted on 08/14/2006 11:10:03 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Bush Doctrine- Old: Fight terrorists. New: Cease fire with terrorists.)
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To: Sabramerican

I still believe that Olmert talked the President into this, not the other way around.


12 posted on 08/14/2006 11:10:05 AM PDT by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el inglés)
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To: Honestfreedom
That seems to be a more plausible explanation given Olmert's handling of the war. Olmert's career is toast for this reason and I don't doubt that the Bush administration is just as annoyed and disappointed with him as the Israeli's are.
13 posted on 08/14/2006 11:10:26 AM PDT by Mase
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To: Honestfreedom
Caroline Glick wrote that she was told the Bush people got tired of waiting for the Israelis to get their act together and decided to stop taking the beating they were taking diplomatically supporting the Israeli war effort.

Sounds reasonable to me too.

14 posted on 08/14/2006 11:16:31 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Mase

We will all end up paying for this some day.


15 posted on 08/14/2006 11:16:35 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Sabramerican
“In a very clear moment, she [Condolisa Rice] decided to go to New York and just force this through by going there and sitting there until it got done.”

An unnamed senior administration official said this...

... and I'm supposed to believe what, that all it takes to "force through" a unanimously approved U.N. Resolution is for the Secretary of State to "sit there until it gets done"?

Beam me up Scotty.

16 posted on 08/14/2006 11:16:42 AM PDT by delacoert
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Caroline Glick wrote that she was told the Bush people got tired of waiting for the Israelis to get their act together and decided to stop taking the beating they were taking diplomatically supporting the Israeli war effort. That sounds like a reasonable analysis.

Agreed. Everyone thought the Israelis would be able to clean up. Krauthammer saying, "we need to wait while the Israelis do what has to be done."

So then Olmert didn't follow through.

So when Bush/Rice realized that Olmert wasn't up to the task, what else could they do?

17 posted on 08/14/2006 11:16:57 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Sabramerican

I think what happened was that Bush gave the Israelis a window and told them to use it. When Olmert tripped over his dick trying to pursue the war the Bush people looked at the diplomatic beating they were taking and decided that it would take the Israelis forever to get this accomplished and they could not wait that long. I blame Olmert more than Bush.


18 posted on 08/14/2006 11:17:07 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: what's up

If you are talking about the 30,000 Israeli troops - maybe they will weed out the scum, but if you mean the 30,000 peace keepers, I wonder if we will ever see all of them. The Lebanese Army deployment is on hold and they loyalty suspect anyway. The UN troops are still only partially identified and won't deploy while the shooting continues.


19 posted on 08/14/2006 11:17:21 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

Anyone who expects the UN or Lebanese, or French to protect Israel is a fool.


20 posted on 08/14/2006 11:19:05 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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