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Mister Ivan Eland...terrorism is a threat to every peace loving Human being in this world..We can't support anti-indian terrorist group and fight anti-US terrorist group....I support putting the name of all terrorist group in US state department terror list. Pussies can hide behind their back women.
1 posted on 08/18/2006 6:41:13 AM PDT by jome
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Mister Ivan Eland...terrorism is a threat to every peace loving Human being in this world..We can't support anti-indian terrorist group and fight anti-US terrorist group....I support putting the name of all terrorist group in US state department terror list. Pussies can hide behind their women.


2 posted on 08/18/2006 6:43:12 AM PDT by jome
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The enemy of my friend is my enemy. The fact that the enemy of my friend is a Muslim homicidal maniac (redundant, I know) seals the deal.


4 posted on 08/18/2006 7:11:32 AM PDT by Minn
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I support any people, any nation, any religion that fights the Jihadist Muslims. This included Slobodan Miliosovic, Israel, India and more. The only exception is Russia because they arm Iran and Syria and supply nuclear reactors to them

JIHAD BE DAMNED!


5 posted on 08/18/2006 7:18:44 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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3 Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge—and more.

6 posted on 08/18/2006 7:26:47 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/aug/04let.htm

Lashkar acts as a secret police for Al Qaeda, says report

August 04, 2003 17:51 IST


The Lashkar-e-Tayiba is acting as a 'secret police' for the Taliban and Al Qaeda, American and Indian intelligence officials say.

A US congressional paper on homeland security quotes former officers of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Indian agencies as saying that the recent arrest of eleven men in Virginia, allegedly connected with the Lashkar, raises the prospects of 'a new terrorist threat in the United States'.

A special report in the congressional quarterly homeland security quotes the FBI's former deputy assistant director for counterintelligence, Harry B 'Skip' Brandon, as saying that

Kashmiri terrorists, who used to raise funds in America earlier for the fight back home, switched over to providing 'other material support' to the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Brandon says the US intelligence 'are not just focussed on the Taliban and Al Qaeda, but also groups affiliated to them'.

The paper quotes Selig Harrison, head of Asia Project at Washington-based Centre for International Policy, as saying that before the 9/11 attacks, 'I was told by a top source in the state department that the Lashkar was serving (as) a secret police function for the Taliban'.

The report quotes former additional secretary in Cabinet Secretariat B Raman as saying that the Lashkar headquarters at Muridke (Pakistan) had 'a guesthouse and a mosque constructed with funds provided by Osama bin Laden'.

"Before he fell foul of the US, Laden stayed in this guesthouse during his visits to Pakistan," Raman says.

He further says the Lashkar is 'building up its clandestine infrastructure in the US and will continue to do so'.

Regarding chances that the Lashkar will participate in an attack on the US, Brandon says, "It is not outside the realm of possibility that it could pose a threat to US homeland security. If you had asked me four or five years ago, I would have said it was highly unlikely as they are interested only in Kashmir.

"But radical Islamic terrorism has given things a new twist and the authorities are gradually seeing a blurring of the lines between terrorist groups."

While Raman feels they will themselves not participate in an attack on the US 'for the present', Teresita Schaffer, director of South Asia programme at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, says her impression is that the Lashkar is 'more interested in their own homeland'.

Raman, however, warns that the outfit will continue to 'guide, train, fund and coordinate other members of Laden's International Islamic Front and Al Qaeda remnants wanting to launch attacks in the US without directly coming into the picture itself'.


© Copyright 2003 PTI. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of PTI content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent.

8 posted on 08/18/2006 7:35:53 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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“The US put the Jamaat on the terrorism list three months ago and investigations now show they could be somehow involved in the bomb plot. You have to ask whether this labelling motivated the plot in the first place,”

Some people get offended so easily.

12 posted on 08/18/2006 8:11:31 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("You can either accept science and face reality, or live in a childish dream world" - Lisa Simpson)
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"Most of the groups on the state department terrorism list don’t really attack the US, some of them do. The US should try and discriminate which of these groups hit US targets and which don’t because even though we are a super power the US cannot fight everyone’s battles"

It's not about fighting other's battle. All this organizations are anti-US to core. if we let them flourish now. They will come to get us tomorrow. people(joker?) like Ivan and their crazy ideas are to blame for the creation of thaliban, saddam......many more..
13 posted on 08/18/2006 8:17:32 AM PDT by jome
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There is a bigger game than Eland acknowledges. He's supposed to be a smart guy, so you would imagine he would know that. But he pretends not to.

In any case, India is our anchor in Asia, or at least we hope they will be. Its one thing for us to ask them to be patient of our relations with Musharraf; its another to fail to support them against the terrorists.


14 posted on 08/18/2006 8:22:17 AM PDT by marron
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This is basically the same argument the muzzies are making to the west - that if the west would stop doing things that upset muzzies, the muzzies would stop the terrorist crap. Another way of saying, do what we want or we will kill you.

Eland is also legitimizing the terrorist's tactics of murder & kidnapping of innocent people. He ignores the fact that terrorists are mostly indiscriminate in their killing, & get more so as their demands are unmet. He forgets all the airline hijackings where the passengers had nothing to do with the terrorist's grievances.

I can understand looking at at problem from all sides. Perhaps Eland was merely playing Devil's Advocate here & was not fully quoted. Otherwise, that old temptation to "go along to get along" has crept into his head.

I suggest a vacation.
16 posted on 08/18/2006 9:06:30 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Eland is a Paul Craig Roberts wanna-be.


18 posted on 08/18/2006 9:44:10 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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I dont understand what this particular 'think-tank' is trying to suggest. Islamic terrorists are 'terrorists' only when they strike US and not so when they strike India ? Jeez. So US should look the other way when some US citizens (we all know who they are) fund these terrorist groups ? US should look the other way when these terrorist groups establish a base in the country ? Everything is fine as long as they dont target the US, huh ?

Look at it this way. What if an anti-US jihadi group convinces the Indians that they have nothing against India and their target is only the US. Should India look the other way too ?

I dont know who these folks at this particular 'think-tank' are, but they certainly are no friends of the US.


19 posted on 08/18/2006 10:39:58 AM PDT by HuckFinn8119
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So this slimy bastard says "let the Indians continue to die at the hands of 'militans', just fight the "terrorists" that hate the US. All Jihadists hate all free people. When they are done with us they'll come to get you.

Someone send this guy over to India, we'll cut his head slowly like they did to Daniel Pearl and we'll say we are not anti-American, just anti-Eland. His think tank can then be outraged at America not doing anything about it. /sarc


21 posted on 08/18/2006 5:27:05 PM PDT by MimirsWell (Pakistaneo delenda est.)
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...Bush administration was fuelling Islamic jihadist anger...

Yeah yeah whatever. Is their anything that doesn't fuel jihadi anger?

23 posted on 08/19/2006 3:46:31 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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Looks like History's repeating itself.

Its the morons like this and his worshipers in foggy bottom who are responsible for 09/11 in the first place. Yeah, differentiate between the good Jihadi and the bad Jihadi. If you guess right they'll be your best ally. WRONG.
The only good Jihadi is a dead-one.

The root of all the terrorism lies in Pakistan - the same Islamic bastards fighting the US are the ones fighting India in Kashmir. Differentiating between Islamofacists is like differentiating between cancer.
24 posted on 08/19/2006 10:50:02 AM PDT by DesiCoderExtreme (They're all bastards)
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So much for India trying to buy off the Indian Muslims with giving them Pakistan...
Don't work...

India should have killed off all the muslim insurrectionists when they rose up against the Indian government at that time..

But then you could/cannot even kill a cow in India.. I think the "Indians" are still very confused.. You cannot buy off this death cult.. with any price.. Pakistan has ten foot pole marks all over it.. Any ally with Pakistan is delusional..

25 posted on 08/19/2006 11:01:18 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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