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The author seems to have picked up on my blog of June 5 Why the world needs automotive historians (gasoline, steam -- or corn?, which set out to correct the notion out in the press that with automobiles gasoline didn't have to be, that there might have been an alternative that was squashed by some vested interest in it.

So he sought me out, and I assisted with the article, but not so as to correct some of the problems in it. (Basically, my ideas didn't jibe with his thesis.) Nevertheless, the writer was earnest and honest, and it's a good article. It shows, however, how quick looks at history can be misleading. He came up with the idea for the article after discovering in the historical newspaper databases a 1925 pronouncement of the coming end of petroleum fields. Not knowing the context of 1925, he made some poor assumptions. In 1924, for example, the government announced that national oil production was down from the previous year. This alarmed many into thinking the oil had run out, whereas the real cause was lower prices following the 1920 depression and the introduction of cheap CA oil, both of which suppressed extraction in the East and Midwest.

As for why gasoline, the Post writer set it straight with this, coming from me:

"Against competing technologies, gasoline ultimately won because it was inherently a more useful form of storing energy," said Michael L. Bromley, a automobile historian in Bethesda.

Freepers will note that the (com)Post article does not mention the, perhaps, greatest oil-running-out prediction, Hubbert's 1956 "peak oil" theory. The Post writer deliberately limited his discussion to the 1920s and before. We've had plenty enough discussions of peak oil here, so Freepers ought to be plenty familiar with that theory.

One comment about it: peak oil does not accommodate price reactions to/from supply, so it serves no other purpose than, right or wrong, to define when a particular oil field has "peaked." It says nothing about the usefulness of petroleum or its alternatives. For that, see my blog, as per the above link.

1 posted on 08/19/2006 7:56:29 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: nicollo

Come October, watch for Diesel cars to get a big push. And watch for Honda's diesel. They could possibly change how history looks at diesel engines; as being clean burning and better than gasoline engines.


2 posted on 08/19/2006 7:58:28 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: nicollo
pretty sure it was Diesel, that said that first thing oil companies did, was to create shortage

they had to find a way to increase prices for stuff that was bubbling from peoples farms

the rest is as they say future traders wet dreams
3 posted on 08/19/2006 7:58:39 PM PDT by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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Good thing someone didn't invent the internal combustion engine in the 1700's, oil (and gasoline) was really scarce then!
4 posted on 08/19/2006 8:03:36 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Assistant to the traveling secretary.)
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Innerestin'


14 posted on 08/19/2006 8:34:49 PM PDT by El Sordo
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There is research going on involving producing bio-diesel fuel from algae. Others are working on a process of turning sewage, packing house waste and other nasty substances into bio-diesel. There are already trucks and cars running on fuel made from discarded restaurant frying oil.
16 posted on 08/19/2006 8:35:17 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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... Killeffer, secretary of the New York division of the American Chemical Society, wrote in the New York Times.
The year was 1925.

The good ole New York Times, always incorrect, inconsequential, but not often informative.

20 posted on 08/19/2006 8:42:42 PM PDT by roadcat
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Steam powered automobiles would probably be a LOT cheaper to manufacture as the tolerances required are not nearly as fine. Plus they could use crude oil directly in the boilers .. or anything else liquid that burned.


29 posted on 08/19/2006 9:02:34 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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One comment about it: peak oil does not accommodate price reactions to/from supply, so it serves no other purpose than, right or wrong, to define when a particular oil field has "peaked."

This is the point everyone seems to miss. Feedback in a dynamic system makes static predictions virtually useless. Price changes are feedback.

44 posted on 08/19/2006 10:02:17 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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"Estimates based on the most complete data now available place the end of our gasoline supply between ten and twenty years, with the odds in favor of ten rather than twenty," Killeffer, secretary of the New York division of the American Chemical Society, wrote in the New York Times. The year was 1925.

Gee. Nailed that one, eh. Just like Weird Algore predicted Global Warming would destroy the earth in ten year. Just don't point out to him that he made that prediction 15 years ago.

66 posted on 08/20/2006 10:59:37 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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When I'm weary, down and out, I'll remember to practice my "strenuousity"... :)


68 posted on 08/20/2006 11:33:19 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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LOW OIL This Should Help Explain It All...

A lot of folks can't understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in our country.

Well, there's a very simple answer. Nobody bothered to check the oil. We just didn't know we were getting low. The reason for that is purely geographical. Our OIL is located in: Alaska California Coastal Florida Coastal Louisiana Kansas Michigan North Dakota Oklahoma Pennsylvania Texas Wyoming

Our DIPSTICKS are located in Washington DC

Any Questions?


79 posted on 08/20/2006 3:37:07 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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