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Buchanan warns of illegal overload
Washington Times ^ | Aug. 22, 2006 | Eric Pfeiffer

Posted on 08/22/2006 5:23:26 AM PDT by conservativecorner

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To: who knows what evil?

I've been debating that very issue with a knucklehead on another thread......my point was that many, many more innocent Americans have been "terrorized" by illegals than were killed in 9-11 and if Bush were fighting a real war on terror they would realize that it's just as big of a tragedy whether it's one at a time or 2-3K in one event. Your numbers prove the point........btw, where can I find the source for that stat? Also, if we add in the number of rapes, thefts, etc. the numbers are off the charts.


41 posted on 08/22/2006 7:37:43 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: Fithal the Wise

As much as I know illegals are responsible for many American deaths since 9/11 and even before that, I highly doubt 45,000 since September 11, 2001. Have there even been that many murders period since that date?

Even so, one American death at the hand of an illegal who snuck across one of America'a land borders is unacceptable considering the lack of real border security. But hey, a head of lettuce is three cents cheaper, right?


42 posted on 08/22/2006 8:02:12 AM PDT by NapkinUser (NAAMAGR)
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To: american spirit
Your numbers prove the point........btw, where can I find the source for that stat?

Click here and read it for yourself. Note the daily stat of illegals and sex crimes against our children, as well.

43 posted on 08/22/2006 8:08:10 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: NapkinUser
Have there even been that many murders period since that date?

These figures include deaths from drunk driving, as well. Read Congressman King's article at the link I posted above. His office WILL confirm that the figures come from the FBI, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, among others.

44 posted on 08/22/2006 8:11:25 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
This isn't racism. We are a sovereign country with sovereign borders, and anyone who enters illegally should be deported. Period. I don't care what color, race or religion they are. GONE! By the way, you mentioned racism, so let me ask, "what gives Hispanics more rights than the millions who are waiting to enter this country legally"?
45 posted on 08/22/2006 8:16:07 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: joe fonebone

I agree also. On foreign affairs, he deserves the Joseph Kennedy award for his positions. On Illegal Immigration he speaks for the majority in this country.


46 posted on 08/22/2006 8:21:49 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: wolfcreek
BINGO BUMP, and the clear majority of Americans agree with Pat's positions on illegal aliens and shamnesty.
47 posted on 08/22/2006 8:23:27 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Fithal the Wise
Here is the article in it's entirety:

Biting the Hand That Feeds You - April 25, 2006

On May 1st, the activists who brought you thousands of Mexican flags flying in marches down the streets of our cities are now bringing you "Nothing Gringo Day". With help from the Mexican government, Mexican unions, Mexican political groups, and through the Spanish language radio and newspapers, the call has gone out to make America experience a total boycott, both here and in Mexico. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Just the word "boycott" sparks the image of noble dissent in the face of economic or social oppression. I think of American colonials bucking British economic interests in retaliation to the Stamp Act. Or perhaps the ostracizing of Irish landlord Charles Boycott, the namesake of the verb for all tyrannized people. If not tyrannized, at least disgruntled. If not disgruntled, maybe just bored.

Yet, isn't the key to a successful boycott an economic or social upper-hand? The cost must be felt if the offending party be forced to reform. For example, how does boycotting a movie you had no intention of going to affect the box office? More people probably see a boycotted movie due to the attention than if it had simply been ignored.

President Carter thought he was on to something when he kept American athletes out of the 1980 Moscow Olympics. That showed 'em. That particular boycott neither got the USSR out of Afghanistan nor brought down the Berlin Wall. It just caused our own athletes to suffer.

The May 1st anti-Gringo-fest is also being billed as "A Day Without Immigrants" which is a misnomer on a couple of counts. First, the threatened boycott fails to conjure the image of a Norwegian refusing to buy his May 1 lutefisk at the corner Fareway. Second, the pro-amnesty groups are insistent on confusing legal and illegal immigration. Let's not start mixing our apples and oranges. The issue before Congress is illegal immigration. Perhaps the May 1st boycott should give America a glimpse into "A Day Without ILLEGAL Immigration."

What would that May 1st look like without illegal immigration? There would be no one to smuggle across our southern border the heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and methamphetamines that plague the United States, reducing the U.S. supply of meth that day by 80%. The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day. Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals. Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds, to anchor babies, to imported diseases to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals. Eight American children would not suffer the horror as a victim of a sex crime.

On the negative side, the price of a pound of tomatoes might go up from $0.79 to $0.80. That is unless you have a garden. But I'm guessing that the Mexican drug lords are not taking May 1st off. Neither will the 11,000 illegal invaders that pour over our border every other day of the year. It is a safe bet that the U.S. Border Patrol will have a very busy "Nothing Gringo Day."

Since September 11th, it remains true that OBL is the greatest threat to America. I will leave it to the reader to decide if the greatest threat is Osama bin Laden or the Open Borders Lobby. The emerging cheap labor "ruling class" in America is the strongest supporter of amnesty for illegals. Their anti-American "new servant class" has chosen to boycott them; the very definition of irony. On May 1st, Primero de Mayo, Americans will observe, as illegal immigrants celebrate, "Bite the Hand That Feeds You Day."
48 posted on 08/22/2006 8:28:27 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Zack Nguyen

It's a mute question. All illegals regardless of race, color or religion need to get the heave ho out of this sovereign country. PERIOD!


49 posted on 08/22/2006 8:30:10 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
And they will be free to use what they have learned in their mother countries:

THe Cost of Amnesty [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

John Boehner's response to today's immigration-bill-cost news:
WASHINGTON, D.C. - House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) today issued the following statement regarding a newly released report by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) that estimates the Reid-Kennedy immigration bill passed by the Senate in May would increase government spending by as much as $127 billion over the next decade:

"When the House began hearings in July to study the massive Reid-Kennedy immigration bill instead of rushing into a negotiating conference with the Senate, we said it was important to examine Reid-Kennedy and learn as much as possible about the impact it would have on our country. The newly-released report by the CBO further validates the tough oversight the House has conducted with respect to Reid-Kennedy since it was passed. I want to commend all of the committee chairmen and committee members who have taken part or will take part in these critically important hearings this summer.

"The House hearings have revealed that the Reid-Kennedy bill includes a gaping loophole that could be exploited by terrorists seeking to do harm on American soil, depriving homeland security forces of critical law enforcement tools at a time when, as the thwarted terror attacks in Britain showed, such tools are needed more than ever.

"Our hearings have also revealed that Reid-Kennedy would repeat some of the mistakes made by the 1986 law that gave amnesty to illegal immigrants and significantly increased illegal immigration while masquerading as a border security measure. With the release of the new CBO report, we now know these repeated mistakes would also come with a staggering price tag for American taxpayers who are already struggling with the rising cost of living.

"Congress must send a bill to the President's desk as soon as possible that will strengthen the security of our borders and step up enforcement of our immigration laws. This is what House Republicans have passed. And this is what the American people want and demand from their elected leaders."
50 posted on 08/22/2006 8:47:50 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: TomGuy

When someone comes into this country by breaking the law, has no skills, cannot speak the language (and refuses to learn it), gets on welfare.......they are not here to assimilate, they are to COLONIZE (or in the thinking of many illegals RE-colonize).

In any event, we're already seeing a balkanization process occurring in many large cities throughout the southwest where some of the neighborhoods resemble those in Mex. City and as long as the fedgov continues to use our tax $ to lavish all kinds of benefits to people who would spit in your face the first chance they got then we'll see this problem eventually explode.


51 posted on 08/22/2006 9:25:23 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: conservativecorner

These Buchanan threads over the past few days are hilarious.

Seems that Pat is now The Man Who Must Not Be Heard.


52 posted on 08/22/2006 10:05:26 AM PDT by absalom01 (Cynthia McKinney: One of the most intelligent Democrats in the country.)
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To: conservativecorner

On of the few things that I agree with Pat about is the illegal invasion.


53 posted on 08/22/2006 10:14:08 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
If Mr. Buchanan is against illegal immigration from developing countries only, then he is only mildly racist

That dog won't hunt. It is nearly imposible for Europeans to immigrate to the US. Even the highly skilled ones, that is racist.

54 posted on 08/22/2006 11:34:34 AM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine))
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To: itsahoot

BINGO BUMP!


55 posted on 08/22/2006 1:09:10 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: itsahoot

"This isn't racism. We are a sovereign country with sovereign borders, and anyone who enters illegally should be deported. Period. I don't care what color, race or religion they are. GONE! By the way, you mentioned racism, so let me ask, "what gives Hispanics more rights than the millions who are waiting to enter this country legally"?"

I tried to ask the same question, but no more posts after I asked a simple question. Hilarious!


56 posted on 08/22/2006 3:20:02 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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Well, it took us 15 years, but the right now has its very own Earth in the Balance.
57 posted on 08/22/2006 3:21:24 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"Earth in the balance" should read "Consitution in the balance"!
58 posted on 08/22/2006 4:25:50 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: onyx; All
Pat was on Imus In The Morning yesterday as well !

His statements, and the danger he has laid out, are not a new revelation at all !

In 1995 Peter Brimelow came out with ALIEN NATION, detailing the dangers of unchecked immigration - -

"immigration from Mexico is a demographic chainsaw,
Americans will wake up find the Southwestern trunk of the U.S. sawed off"

In 1990 Lawrence Auster wrote- SUICIDE OF AMERICA: An Essay on Immigration and Multiculturalism
59 posted on 08/23/2006 3:22:31 AM PDT by marc costanzo ("The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box" - - Truman)
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To: marc costanzo


G'Morning, Marc.
GOOD to see you!


60 posted on 08/23/2006 3:24:05 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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