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America's Taliban strikes again
Arkansas News Bureau ^ | 28 August 2006 | John Brummett

Posted on 08/28/2006 6:31:13 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

The Holocaust wasn't Hitler's fault. Darwin made him do it. Complicit as well are any who buy into the scientific theory that modern man evolved from lower animal forms.

That's the latest lunacy from one of our more fanatical right-wing American Christian television outfits, the Coral Ridge Ministries in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

Coral Ridge espouses that America is not a free-religion nation, but a Christian one. It argues there should be no separation of church and state.

Thus it's America's Taliban, America's Shiite theocracy.

It certainly has a propensity for explaining or excusing Hitler. A few years ago it brought in a conference speaker to argue that American abortion was a more horrible atrocity than the Holocaust.

One year it disinvited Cal Thomas as a conference speaker after Brother Cal got too liberal. You're thinking I must be kidding. But I kid you not. Brother Cal had displayed the utter audacity to co-author a book contending that American Christian conservatives ought to worry a little more about spreading the gospel from the bottom of the culture up rather than from the top of politics down.

Now this: Coral Ridge is airing a couple of cable installments of a "documentary," called "Darwin's Deadly Legacy," that seek to make a case that, without Darwin, there could have been no Hitler.

Authoritative sources for the program include no less than columnist Ann Coulter, noted scientist, who says she is outraged that she didn't get instructed in Darwin's effective creation of Hitler when she was in school. She says she has since come to understand that Hitler was merely a Darwinist trying, by extermination of a group of people he considered inferior because of their religion and heritage, to "hurry along" the natural survival of the Aryan fittest.

Also quoted is Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Human Genome Project, who tells the Anti-Defamation League that his comments were used out of context and that he is "absolutely appalled" by the "utterly misguided and inflammatory" premise of Coral Ridge's report.

The documentary's theme is really quite simple: Darwin propounded the theory of evolution. Hitler came along and believed the theory. Hitler killed Jews. So, blame Darwin for the Holocaust. Blame, too, all others who agree with or advance Darwin's theory. Get back to God and Adam and Eve and all will be right again with the world.

"To put it simply, no Darwin, no Hitler," said Dr. D. James Kennedy, president of Coral Ridge Ministries. "The legacy of Charles Darwin is millions of deaths."

Obviously, the theme is breath-taking nonsense. You can't equate academic theory with murderous practice. You can't equate a thinker and a madman, or science and crime.

And you can't ever blame one man for another's actions. That once was a proud conservative precept. In a different context, you'll no doubt find Coral Ridge fervently preaching personal responsibility. Except, apparently, for Adolf Hitler, to whom these religious kooks issue a pass. Ol' Adolf, it seems, just fell in with a bad crowd.

By Coral Ridge's premise, Mohammed is to blame for Osama bin Laden. Actually, Coral Ridge might not argue with that. So how about this: The pope is to blame for the IRA. And Jesus is to blame for Mel Gibson, not to mention Coral Ridge Ministries.

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Everyone be nice.
1 posted on 08/28/2006 6:31:13 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 08/28/2006 6:32:11 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The universe is made for life, therefore ID. Life can't arise naturally, therefore ID.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Wow.
"To put it simply, no Darwin, no Hitler," said Dr. D. James Kennedy, president of Coral Ridge Ministries.

No wonder these guys are Creationists. With cognitive skills like that, one would fall for anything.

And you can't ever blame one man for another's actions. That once was a proud conservative precept.

These men aren't conservatives.

3 posted on 08/28/2006 6:35:03 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: PatrickHenry
So why are these gutter cultists getting airtime? It's like consulting David Duke on political matters. Cut off their media air supply and they'll go away.
4 posted on 08/28/2006 6:36:03 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: PatrickHenry

Interesting article. And if you ignore the hyperbole and ad hominems, the 20 remaiining words make for a really quick read, too.


5 posted on 08/28/2006 6:36:05 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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To: PatrickHenry
Thus it's America's Taliban, America's Shiite theocracy.

Have they advocated killing those who don't agree with them?

6 posted on 08/28/2006 6:37:16 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: PatrickHenry
By Coral Ridge's premise, Mohammed is to blame for Osama bin Laden.

Not sure about the rest of the article, but they nailed this part correctly.

}:-)4

7 posted on 08/28/2006 6:37:50 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: PatrickHenry

"It argues there should be no separation of church and state.

Thus it's America's Taliban, America's Shiite theocracy."

Ridiculous. We DON'T have seperation of church and state, so the author is saying we are already the "Taliban", in his eyes.

And why he chooses to pick on some "never-heard-of" little group in Florida, I have no idea, especially when Imams are preaching hate in destruction right here in our own cities.

This idiot writer can get bent.


8 posted on 08/28/2006 6:38:00 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: Physicist

They pay money for their air-time like everyone else. Perhaps you think they should not be allowed to speak? I haven't heard one word of refutation of what Kennedy says, only insults.


9 posted on 08/28/2006 6:39:44 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: PatrickHenry

Oh, and by the way, any valid points that the author had about the Darwin-Hitler link (which, I agree, is way too much of a stretch) went right out the window when he used the "Taliban" reference to refer to Coral Ridge. Coral Ridge Ministries doesn't go around chopping off hands or executing those that disagree with them.

Basically, using the "Taliban" reference when referring to conservative Christians should be a corollary to Godwin's Law--invoke it, you automatically lose the argument. He did, and he lost.

}:-)4


10 posted on 08/28/2006 6:39:53 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: PatrickHenry

What a cr@ppy article.

That said, Darwin would have been appalled at the application of evolution theory to human society. "Social Darwinism" is no Darwinism at all. HE opposed the idea the use of his idea for eugenics.


12 posted on 08/28/2006 6:40:37 AM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: PatrickHenry

What a cr@ppy article.

That said, Darwin would have been appalled at the application of evolution theory to human society. "Social Darwinism" is no Darwinism at all. HE opposed the idea the use of his idea for eugenics.


13 posted on 08/28/2006 6:40:39 AM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: L,TOWM
And if you ignore the hyperbole and ad hominems, the 20 remaiining words make for a really quick read, too.

The venom is unreal. Makes you think the Left is really afraid of the folks they demonize this way.

14 posted on 08/28/2006 6:41:16 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Moose4

Bingo. That should end this pathetically ignorant thread right there.


15 posted on 08/28/2006 6:41:18 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: PatrickHenry
The problem with this silly screed being, of course, that "Social Darwinism" was called that for a specific reason, and one of its chief aims was a eugenic approach to improving the human race. Whether or not Charles Darwin intended it to occur, people did (and do) attempt to apply his theory to human development.

The Nazis were not alone in this -- Margaret Sanger was another notable devotee -- but the Nazis did have their "racial theories," and they attempted to put them into practice.

I've been reminded many times that the theory of evolution has no moral implications. But of course -- like any scientific theory -- it does. And as the nastier aspects of "Social Darwinism" have made clear, the moral implications of evolution can be rather uncomfortable.

16 posted on 08/28/2006 6:41:53 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Physicist

Liberals eat news like this up.....it's their manna.


17 posted on 08/28/2006 6:42:53 AM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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To: Graybeard58

Actually, some do. But they don't get too far.


18 posted on 08/28/2006 6:42:56 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("There's no problem so big that government intervention can't make it worse.")
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To: PatrickHenry

If it wasn't for Einstein, we wouldn't have to worry about North Korea and Iran right now.

DAMN YOU EINSTEIN!


19 posted on 08/28/2006 6:43:08 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: Larry Lucido

Names?


20 posted on 08/28/2006 6:43:20 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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