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Hamid al-Saedi captured and squealing like a pig-tried to use children and women as human shields.
inthebullpen ^ | Debbie at 10:35 am EDT

Posted on 09/04/2006 6:47:59 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

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To: george76

You tell 'em Betty!


21 posted on 09/04/2006 7:56:52 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: tobyhill
And if that fails... “But... [stammer, eyes bugging out]... we created bin Laden/al Qaeda!”
22 posted on 09/04/2006 8:01:01 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: InvisibleChurch
According to reports, al-Saedi has been talking and giving up valuable information in the two days since his capture.

Daed man walking....His "friends" will do him in to shut him up.

23 posted on 09/04/2006 8:09:12 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: InvisibleChurch
"These guys are not so brave when they think their time is up, hiding behind women and children. Pathetic!"

Bullies are ALWAYS cowards at heart. If ever faced with anywhere equal force, they always "fold".

24 posted on 09/04/2006 8:16:12 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Just like every other terrorist and/or Democrat: all yak and no sack.


25 posted on 09/04/2006 8:18:27 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: InvisibleChurch

I love these stories. It is the only reason deep down I hope bin laden is captured alive. I would love to see us special forces raiding his cave and have him on video kicking and screaming pleading for his life. Then have him after he gives up all kinds of juicy info.


26 posted on 09/04/2006 8:19:24 AM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Baynative

27 posted on 09/04/2006 8:20:32 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
It is the only reason deep down I hope bin laden is captured alive. I would love to see us special forces raiding his cave and have him on video kicking and screaming pleading for his life. Then have halve him after he gives up all kinds of juicy info.

Fixed :)

28 posted on 09/04/2006 8:22:50 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: george76
GOD BLESS BETTY DAWISHA!!!

I still have her video clip on my desktop - just couldn't ever delete her - she's a keeper, for sure!!!

29 posted on 09/04/2006 8:23:52 AM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: Dr.Deth

much better.


30 posted on 09/04/2006 8:23:55 AM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Chi-townChief

And when he is of no more use, maybe they will drown him in pigs blood, wrap him in pig fat and feed him to the pigs.


31 posted on 09/04/2006 8:33:09 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant; Dr.Deth; chiefqc

Interrogating bin Laden
Jack Wheeler
Freedom Research Foundation
Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2001
It is obviously important that OBL (Osama bin Laden) not be simply hunted down and shot to death. He should be captured and interrogated until all the information he has about his terrorist network has been extracted from him – then he should be summarily executed. No trials, no being "brought to justice."

What, then, would the most efficient and effective form of interrogation be? In 1995, the Philippine State Police captured an OBL agent. They knew he was planning some terrorist act but didn't know what. So they tortured him – the old-fashioned way, right out of the movies, putting out cigarettes on his testicles, breaking his ribs, the whole brutal nine yards.

It took two weeks and finally he broke, revealing a plot to hijack 11 airliners. By exposing and unraveling the plot, the torture saved hundreds, perhaps thousands, of lives, so it was clearly justified.

The ethics of torturing OBL should not be an issue. As a practical matter, the question is how to torture him in such a way that it takes hours, not days or weeks, for him to break – and when he does break, you know for sure he is telling the truth.


To start with, you don't want to use a so-called truth serum like thiopental sodium. It acts by confusing your memory so much you forget who is your friend and who is your enemy. So you think the interrogator is your friend and you talk – except you can't think or remember clearly. No, you want OBL to be thinking and remembering with crystal clarity.


The best lie detector – although it's not used as such – would be a medical brain scanning device called an fMRI (functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging). Light years in effectiveness beyond a polygraph, an fMRI scan can distinguish – instantly, in real time – when someone is either lying or telling the truth, as different regions in the brain light up.

So here's what to do:

Fly in from the U.S. and set up an fMRI at an interrogation center at the Termez air base in Uzbekistan. When OBL or any of his agents is captured, bring him to the center and do three things: Place him under the fMRI brain scanner, put him on a mechanical respirator, and give him an injection of a paralytic drug called succinyl choline chloride (SCC).


SCC, used as a veterinarian anesthetic, causes muscle paralysis by blocking neuromuscular junction. It causes immobilization without affecting the central nervous system. OBL cannot move yet is fully conscious and there is no analgesia (pain relief).

Injection by an M.D. anesthesiologist of SCC into the nerve tracts leading to the diaphragm will paralyze the muscles needed for breathing. OBL can think, remember and talk, but he cannot breathe. The mechanical respirator breathes for him. Without the respirator, he would quickly suffocate and die.


The respirator is a CPAP, a Continuous Positive Airway Pressure unit used for treating sleep apnea, with a nasal mask. The unit itself is placed in an adjacent room with a long hose, as no metal can be around the huge magnets of the fMRI. The unit will force air via the nasal passageway into the lungs. His mouth is free and clear to talk.


Now the interrogation begins. OBL is asked a series of questions to which the answers are known (e.g., Are you a Moslem? Would you like a drink of pig grease?) If he lies, the respirator is turned off. Few experiences are more terrifying than that of suffocation.

After a sufficiently terrifying period of suffocation, the respirator is turned back on, the question is asked again and the process repeated until he tells the truth.

Once you have the regions in OBL's brain clearly distinguished that light up when he is lying or telling the truth, the serious questioning starts. It will not take long, an hour or two at the most, before OBL or his agent is singing like a full chorus of canaries.


After all useful information has been extracted from his brain, OBL or his agent should be informed that he will now be killed after his body is smeared with pig fat, that his dead body will be handled by women, and all other actions taken that prevent a Moslem from entering heaven upon death so that he dies believing he will never get the heavenly wine and virgins, but will burn in hell instead.

Upon his execution, there should be no physical remains. The body should be cremated and the ashes scattered to the winds.


While this must be OBL's fate, it may be useful to not kill certain interrogated agents, but rather use them as informants. One helpful benefit of this method of interrogation is that it will not leave a mark of any kind on the terrorist's body.


Then the word can be spread. All members of the Moslem Terrorist Network must know that we have informants among them; that once captured, any of their terrorist brethren will betray their comrades and that their fate will be ashes and hell. The only way to win the War Against Moslem Terrorism is to terrorize the terrorists into giving up their evil Jihad.


32 posted on 09/04/2006 8:40:29 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (What I do (sin) is proof of what I am (sinful).)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Show him the closing scene from Braveheart.


33 posted on 09/04/2006 8:57:00 AM PDT by spokeshave (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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To: NordP

Click on her picture for the video, too.


34 posted on 09/04/2006 9:00:09 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: InvisibleChurch

She is very good.


35 posted on 09/04/2006 9:00:30 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Squealing like a pig when he was captured and he has been singing like a canary since then.


36 posted on 09/04/2006 9:28:39 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: InvisibleChurch

"Al-Saedi was hiding in civilian homes and tried to use children and women as human shields. He ordered bombings and mortar attacks, killed innocent civilians, was in charge of a group that kidnapped individuals, and is accused of ordering a... "

Just the run-of-the-mill Muslim stuff


37 posted on 09/04/2006 9:30:06 AM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: InvisibleChurch

There are a number of things that trouble me about this reportage. Why, after a mere two days would they announce his capture, if he's such a fountain of information? They couldn't possibly extract all that he knows in such a short period of time; much less arrange to capture or kill all of the people he informed on. Do you think that his cohorts would stick around, knowing that this guy is talking? What incentive does he have to tell the truth in any event? We know they can't torture him! Al Qaeda is a Sunni organization. Did they threaten him with a speedy trial in a Shia Court? As a committed Muslim doesn't he welcome death? I mean, why would he talk?


38 posted on 09/04/2006 9:37:36 AM PDT by old school
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To: InvisibleChurch

Sounds like a plan.


39 posted on 09/04/2006 10:31:51 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: old school
Why, after a mere two days would they announce his capture, if he's such a fountain of information?

Once his minions have already found out that he's been captured, delaying the official announcement serves no purpose

40 posted on 09/04/2006 10:38:55 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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