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To: HAL9000

I just read up on TATP. You'd have to be insane to manufacture this stuff it's so unstable.


7 posted on 09/11/2006 11:08:25 AM PDT by dljordan
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The extreme shock, heat, and friction sensitivity are due to the instability of the molecule. Big crystals, found in older mixtures, are more dangerous, as they are easier to shatter — and initiate — than small ones.

Many people have been killed or permanently injured by accidents with acetone peroxide. It is widely used by people who want to make homemade explosives because of its low cost and ease of manufacture. They may be unaware of its extreme sensitivity; or they make it anyway because it is cheap and can be made in a refrigerator.

There is a common myth that the only "safe" acetone peroxide is the trimer, made at low temperatures: "The mixture must be kept below 10 degrees Celsius. If the crystals form at this temperature, it forms the isomer called tricycloacetone peroxide, which is relatively stable and safe to handle. If the crystals form above this temperature, the dimerric form, called dicycloacetone peroxide. This isomer is much more unstable, and could go off at the touch, making it not safe enough to be considered a practical explosive. As long as the temperature is kept below 10 degrees Celsius, then there is little to worry about." [1] In reality, the acid-catalyzed peroxidation of acetone always produces a mixture of dimeric and trimeric forms.

The trimer is the more stable form, but not much more so than the dimer. All forms of acetone peroxide are very sensitive to initiation. Organic peroxides are sensitive, dangerous explosives. The military does not use them because there are many much better alternatives. Even for people who synthesize homemade explosives, there are many far safer alternatives. Even nitroglycerin is not nearly as sensitive as acetone peroxide....

from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TATP


8 posted on 09/11/2006 11:17:12 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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IIRC it's the same stuff that student blew himself up with outside the college football stadium a year or so back.
9 posted on 09/11/2006 11:17:16 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: dljordan
I just read up on TATP. You'd have to be insane to manufacture this stuff it's so unstable.

Ummmmm, they are. If they weren't born crazy, their religion drives them crazy...

10 posted on 09/11/2006 11:21:56 AM PDT by null and void (Islamic communities belong in Islamic countries.- Eric in the Ozarks)
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