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To: Diddle E. Squat

You cannot deny that evictions will take place.

The TTC will assure that they take place in non-urbanized
farm and pasture lands far from urbanization and access
rather than along the I35 corridor where the traffic is
now.

The trucks you think will use the TTC will still be on I35
because they are mostly local traffic and TTC won't
help that (who wants to pay a toll?). Long hauls won't
want to pay it either. Maybe the few trucks that are company owned won't mind but the owner operators are
going to dodge tollbooths as they do now.

So I'll still be stuck behind them even after Perry's folly is built. Except that my ranch will be under it. Guess I'll
be gone from Texas if that happens..


9 posted on 09/13/2006 1:51:11 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: rahbert

"Except that my ranch will be under it. Guess I'll
be gone from Texas if that happens.."

Yes, you must sacrifice for the greater good - you know, like under Stalin, Mao, Castro, Mugabe, etc. You are a little person, who must get out of the way of progress - because the governor for life demands it. Please leave now, so that it does not get ugly.

(/sarcasm)


11 posted on 09/13/2006 2:07:22 PM PDT by BobL
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To: rahbert
You cannot deny that evictions will take place.

Who has? The point being that there will be far fewer by routing via rural areas than expanding I-35 and booting out many businesses and houses along the frontage roads. And a rural route can especially minimize home and business takings because there are more routing options to use farm or ranch land. Grassy pastures are not exactly in short supply in central and north TX.

The TTC will assure that they take place in non-urbanized farm and pasture lands far from urbanization and access rather than along the I35 corridor where the traffic is now.

Not that far, generally parallel and within 5-10 miles to the east of I-35. From Georgetown going south it will be built in place of an already planned highway, so killing the TTC concept won't prevent any land takings south of Georgetown(in fact the Georgetown-Lockhart segment will open next year, minus the truck lanes, utilities, and rail segments, the latter which may never be built in that section.) From south of Midlothian to north of Denton the TTC will simply be built instead of the long-planned outer loop, so again killing it won't eliminate any takings since that loop will be built anyway.

The trucks you think will use the TTC will still be on I35 because they are mostly local traffic and TTC won't help that (who wants to pay a toll?). Long hauls won't want to pay it either. Maybe the few trucks that are company owned won't mind but the owner operators are going to dodge tollbooths as they do now.

Some won't, but many will, because time is money and the truck lanes will have a higher speed limit, reduced grades (so less of the slow uphill climbs), and less congestion. Plus there are various means to induce trucks to use the lanes that the state can implement if this becomes a problem (tax incentives, etc.)

So I'll still be stuck behind them even after Perry's folly is built. Except that my ranch will be under it. Guess I'll be gone from Texas if that happens.

Yeah, right. IIRC, you said you live north of Ft. Worth? Given that for most of the route the maximum width needed will be 800', that the route around DFW is going to use the ROW of an already planned road, and that the section north of DFW to the OK border isn't planned to be built until after 2025, the chances of you losing your land are virtually nil, and even lower for that happening in the next 15-20 years. TXDOT has already said that they will use their standard procedures for ROW acquisition, one of which is an agreement where they buy purchase rights for the land at a set price but the owner has the right to continue occupancy and use until construction starts.

But I can't for the life of me understand why they want to pave over the Cross Timbers for the occaisional Mexican truck and leave us working stiffs to commute on the same decrepit badly designed I35.

More drama queening. The San Antonio-Laredo portion isn't scheduled to be built until after 2025, and again, the outer loop around DFW that the TTC will use was already planned and going to get built anyway. They aren't "Paving over the Cross Timbers", they are building a single road that was already planned for the majority of its length. If you have a problem with subdivisions popping up on the exterior of DFW, take it up with the local cities and counties. The developers are eating up many multiple times more land than this single road.

27 posted on 09/13/2006 4:17:30 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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