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To: pissant; All
RE-Post from earlier today;

I've probably listened to Savage longer than you have. I know exactly what he thinks, on just about every topic. He is not un-american. He is anti-bush, anti-mission in Iraq and by default, anti-troop. Working diligently day in and day out to undermine the CIC is just as despicable to me whether its a dingbat peace activist, or a dingbat talk show host.

Many people listen to Savage, many more just seem to don't get where he's coming from. Liberals loathe him, conservatives seem to be divided over him, I'm just amazed and dumbfounded that any true-blue conservative could hate Savage.

Savage is crystal clear on why he feels the way he does, liberals are clearly just confused. Savage voted for Bush, the liberals did not. Savage consistently aims his vitriol at liberalism and when Bush strays into the liberalism target zone he gets hit in the Savage cross-hairs, cause we all know liberalism is but a mental disorder. However that's not anti-Bush, it's anti-liberalism. When Bush entertains conservative ideals and only when, then Savage becomes his biggest booster. Liberals are ALWAYS against Bush.

Savage initially supported the war, so did I and probably still would if not for the PC strategy that obviously is not working over there. the liberals never supported the war and never will.

And anti-troop, oh my, words fail me here but all I can say is Pendleton 8. You really have a different understanding about Savage than I do but at least you do have an issue to go along with your name-calling, reminds me of a certain talk show host. Most of the Savage detractors tend to be hit and run posters that just deliver empty-headed rhetoric and name-calls.

So you find him despicable, hey guess what, you now have something in common with the 'dingbat peace activists'. I think he's the greatest and if I for a moment thought that Savage was out to undermine what this country stands for, I wouldn't listen to his show, I wouldn't engage on a thread about him, and doubt there would even be a Savage thread on Free Republic to engage in, and I certainly wouldn't be taking the time to defend him.

185 posted on 09/14/2006 11:59:17 AM PDT by whatisthetruth

15 posted on 09/14/2006 3:19:30 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth

Excellent essay you wrote!


19 posted on 09/14/2006 3:24:45 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: whatisthetruth; Gucho; SandRat
Many people listen to Savage, many more just seem to don't get where he's coming from. Liberals loathe him, conservatives seem to be divided over him, I'm just amazed and dumbfounded that any true-blue conservative could hate Savage.

Yes, I'm well aware of Savage's popularity. Yes liberals loathe him. They also loathe the Pope, but that doesn't stop many non-catholic conservatives from bashing the papacy. No need to dumbfounded why most conservative dislike Savage. Getting on his knees for a sickening interview with Chuckie Schumer just cause Chuckie agreed with Savage's ignorant take on the Dubai-ports controversy. Here is a guy Savage completely lambasted as the enemy within, yet he treated Chuckie with the deference of a king. And his consistent degradation of the President is disgusting.

Savage is crystal clear on why he feels the way he does, liberals are clearly just confused. Savage voted for Bush, the liberals did not. Savage consistently aims his vitriol at liberalism and when Bush strays into the liberalism target zone he gets hit in the Savage cross-hairs, cause we all know liberalism is but a mental disorder. However that's not anti-Bush, it's anti-liberalism. When Bush entertains conservative ideals and only when, then Savage becomes his biggest booster. Liberals are ALWAYS against Bush.

Yes, Savage is crystal clear why he feels the way he does. With feels being the operative word. Don't tell me he is not anti-Bush. I've heard him say there is little or no differnce between Bush and Clinton more than once. I've heard him say Bush is a liberal. I've heard him say Bush is frat boy. I've heard him say Bush is Vicente Fox's puppet. I've heard him say Bush is a globalist. Over the top rhetoric designed specifically to turn conservatives against Bush. It's ridiculous and 180 degrees from reality.

Savage initially supported the war, so did I and probably still would if not for the PC strategy that obviously is not working over there. the liberals never supported the war and never will.

This is the biggest fallacy of all. This so called PC war. Even if it is not being fought as Gen Savage would like, it is incumbent upon conservatives to support it to its conclusion, which is fast approaching. Instead, he is spewing utter stupidity, born from his NY Times understanding of what is taking place in Iraq, and doing his damn best to get conservatives to withdraw support for Bush, Rumsfeld, the Generals and the mission. It is assinine defeatism, with no anchor in reality. I have not heard him one time in the last 6 months give praise to any of the treamendous accomplishments that our Military has had there. So once again, it does not matter what the reason is that you want to cut and run, whether you are a peacenik, or weather you think we should have just nuked the place, the bottom line is the vitriolic undermining of President Bush is the same, and equally vapid.

And two weeks ago, I listened as wise old Savage proclaimed that we should put Saddam back in power!!! That Saddam knoew how to handle shias and terrorists. What a disgustingly idiotic thing to say. 2600 dead and many more wounded troops it has taken us to overthrow his evil dictatorship - an evil dictatorship that HAD TIES TO MANY TERRORISTS INCLUDING AL QAEDA - and he thinks we should give up now, after establishing a constitutional republic, giving the ME a taste of freedom, and killing thousands and thousands of terrorists. It is delusion beyond description.

And the kicker is he doesn't know a f*cking thing about what is going on there. Why doesn't he interview Ollie North? Is Ollie just a liberal liar carrying Bush's water? How about Genreal Casey or any number of active Duty officers available to the press? If he doesn't want to do that, why doesn't he read the mil-bloggers. Or read any of the press releases regarding the action in theatre? It's because he thinks he knows better than the people running this war, and it would go against his Savage tunnelvision. He is no better than the NY Times in this regard, and as a conservative, you should be ashamed of him for that.

And anti-troop, oh my, words fail me here but all I can say is Pendleton 8. You really have a different understanding about Savage than I do but at least you do have an issue to go along with your name-calling, reminds me of a certain talk show host. Most of the Savage detractors tend to be hit and run posters that just deliver empty-headed rhetoric and name-calls.

That's great that he is supporting the Pendleton 8. Unfortunately, he acts as if he is the only one doing so. Hannity also is. As are many freepers who did not wait for Savage's lead to throw their support behing our guys. I've raged & railed here and elsewhere about the Haditha Marines since day one. Does that make me some exclusive purveyor of troop support? hell no. I'm one of millions of Americans who support our military. They are by FAR the most respected institution in this country, in poll after poll, meaning even lotsa libs support them. But undermining the CIC in a time of war is a chickenshit thing to do, and that is exactly what the bastard is doing. The troops, by and large, love this president. The troops, by and large, support this mission. The troops, by and large, are frustrated and ticked by the misinformation and defeatism in the MSM they read. Yet Savage continues to parrot the ridiculous nonsense found on reuters, the AP and the Washington Post to build his case for not supporting the war.

If you don't believe me, while listening to Savage, scroll through Freepers Gucho and Sandrat's daily posts here on FR, and compare that news to the quagmire Savage has been painting these last few months. After a few days of that, ask yourself which source is a more accurate source of information.

40 posted on 09/14/2006 4:23:26 PM PDT by pissant
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To: whatisthetruth
Savage aims his vitriol at the liberals, and when Bush strays into the target zone, he gets into the crosshairs.

Nice and accurate way of putting it.

56 posted on 09/14/2006 5:00:09 PM PDT by jeremiah (Our military are not "fodder", but fathers and mothers and sons and daughters.)
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