US-Russia effort to contain nuclear experts fades-(nukes firesale)

cs monitor ^ | September 20, 2006 | By Fred Weir and Mark Clayton

[Flavius]

MOSCOW AND BOSTON – At a Moscow conference in 2000 on stopping the global migration of nuclear-weapons know-how, a Russian security official revealed that Taliban envoys had tried to recruit a Russian nuclear expert.

That expert didn't go to work for the Afghan regime. But three of his colleagues did leave their institute for other nations - and Russian officials had no idea which ones, US experts say.

With the threat of nuclear terrorism looming large in a post-9/11 world, the brain drain of Russian nuclear expertise is an even more critical concern than it was six years ago, many say. Yet a unique 1998 US-Russian partnership to offer new opportunities and skills to destitute Russian nuclear specialists living in remote former-Soviet "science cities" is set to expire Friday unless last-minute diplomacy saves it.

A stronger Russian economy and growing wariness of US access to sensitive nuclear programs has dampened Moscow's enthusiasm for the Nuclear Cities Initiative (NCI) program, as has a three-year wrangle with Washington over legal liability issues, observers say

[zarf]

By stock in burn ointments and ice packs.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

Anyone else getting the slow, sinking feeling that there are actually a significant number of global leaders, who have reached the conclusion that global nuclear war, is winnable?

There really doesn't seem any other explanation.

[Flavius]

yup, it surely is ower now

we had a good run

[Archie Bunker on steroids]

Anyone else getting the slow, sinking feeling that there are actually a significant number of global leaders, who have reached the conclusion that global nuclear war, is winnable?

Bin Laden believes that the only group of people left after the nuc holocaust will be Muslims therefore he is hoping for one. As many in the ME are nomadic, he believes their lifestyle is perfect for the post nuclear planet.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

We know various middle east players want Armageddon. That's not what I mean.

What I'm sensing is the conflagration which is (clearly) building in the not-so-distant future, is being enabled by some very powerful forces. Russia. China. Some weenie ones too, such as France.

It is illogical for France and China and Russia, to actively and quite stubbornly, ENABLE the end of the world. They live on it too. It's not a very big place, and there are more nuclear weapons being pointed all around it in anger, every single DAY.

That's what I don't get. They've either gone completely insane, or they actually have somehow reached the scary conclusion they can win a global nuclear war.

There's no other explanation.

[Right Wing Assault]

Hire as many of these guys as we can. Of course, there are some big bucks Muzzles out there looking for them, too.

[penelopesire]

Moscow is just trying to drain our treasure much like Reagan did theirs during the cold war. This is why they never side with the US in the security council. It is a global chess match and no matter how 'nice' the US is to anyone of the players...they seek our destruction. Not sure that either party is ready to face the world as it really is, however I will always vote for conservatives in the knowledge that most conservatives see the world as it actually is.

[P-40]

Cut off the oil money and a lot of the problem goes away...

[penelopesire]

"Hire as many of these guys as we can. Of course, there are some big bucks Muzzles out there looking for them, too."

Not sure that is neccessary. If you look at our own Manhattan project..most of the workers only knew one piece of the puzzle. Not many knew the entire 'process' for logical reasons. There is no reason the US should hire every single 'nuclear' worker in Russia. This is silly think. Nuclear technology has already left the post man..paying Russia money at this point is just playing into their hands. IMHO

[gotribe]

muzzies will use it on the Israelis first, then each other. Then, if there are any nukes left, they'll try to use them on us.

[gotribe]

And it goes away rather quickly, too.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

IMHO it's naive to think the nuclear genie, once re-released, will this time go back in the bottle. Ever.

One nuclear detonation anywhere on earth these days, will almost certainly result in multiple detonations in reply.

At that millisecond - our planet will forever change.

The unthinkable, will become the real. Remember pre 9-11 America.

September 10th 2006, America had never attacked another country. For this reason, many of our potential adversaries saw us as a "paper tiger".

That is the depth of global misunderstandings right now.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

(sorry, that was supposed to be 2001)

[P-40]

And it goes away rather quickly, too.

Petropolitics :)

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/users/login.php?story_id=3426&URL=http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3426

When I heard the president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, declare that the Holocaust was a “myth,” I couldn’t help asking myself: “I wonder if the president of Iran would be talking this way if the price of oil were $20 a barrel today rather than $60 a barrel.” When I heard Venezuela’s President Hugo Chávez telling British Prime Minister Tony Blair to “go right to hell” and telling his supporters that the U.S.sponsored Free Trade Area of the Americas “can go to hell,” too, I couldn’t help saying to myself, “I wonder if the president of Venezuela would be saying all these things if the price of oil today were $20 a barrel rather than $60 a barrel, and his country had to make a living by empowering its own entrepreneurs, not just drilling wells.”

[EricT.]

Moscow is just trying to drain our treasure much like Reagan did theirs during the cold war. This is why they never side with the US in the security council. It is a global chess match and no matter how 'nice' the US is to anyone of the players...they seek our destruction.

Here's hoping that Moscow is the first city to get warmed up by Chechen Muzzies.

[Thunder90]

Russia is the USSR with an image team and a makeover. Don't let the putinists on the forum tell you otherwise.

[penelopesire]

no worry about that..my daddy taught me better. (wink)

[Sergei_DV]

I red several articles and books of possible scenario of Russian and American experts. Beginning of it will be somewhere near 2008-2010 by big disarming blow by several thousands Indian Axes from all directions to Russia, and intercepting few left intact rockets by complex antimissile system. All actions will be directed from center in USA, with monitoring all surface from satellites and unmanned planes, as in big computer game. Distant war of 6-th generation. Elements of needed weapon where tested in Serbia, Iraq, they effectiveness was high. Military budget of USA is bigger, than in years of Cold War, and military bases closer to Russia borders. Other adversaries will be easy prey.