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More Mexican migrants speak no Spanish
The Mercury News/AP ^ | 09/18/06 | JOSEPH B. FRAZIER

Posted on 09/21/2006 2:53:20 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

WOODBURN, Ore. - Inching along the dusty field under a broiling sun, Simon Santol tossed garlic bulbs into buckets and chatted with the other stooped-over Mexican workers. The conversation wasn't in Spanish.

Instead, they spoke Santol's native Triqui, or Mixtec, Zapotec or other languages indigenous to the poorest regions of Mexico. Many of the workers can barely get by in English or Spanish.

"It was hard at first," the 28-year-old Santol said in halting Spanish. "We would look for someone who spoke our language and Spanish. Now I have learned a little Spanish. Grace of God."

Immigrants who have not adopted Spanish or English can struggle to find housing, jobs and fair interest rates, advocate groups say. Navigating the legal system is tricky - sometimes it's difficult just to communicate.

But with worsening conditions at home and relatively rosy reports from family or community members already here, the United States is attracting more indigenous immigrants - people who primarily speak a local indigenous language of Mexico, a country that is Latin America's Tower of Babel. Its government recognizes 162 living languages, plus some 300 dialects.

It's impossible to say exactly how indigenous people have crossed the border. Many are here illegally and would rather not be counted, and immigrant population estimates tend to focus on nationality, not language. But estimates put the number of Mixtec speakers in the United States from Oaxaca alone at 100,000, mostly in Oregon and California's Central Valley.

The stream has grown since the North American Free Trade Agreement opened Mexico to U.S. crops in 1994, straining Mexico's farmers, some experts say.

"Now corn sent by the United States is real cheap, there's no return for us," said Leon Ciovasquez, spokesman for the Indigenous Front of Binational Organizations based in Fresno, Calif. "There's no point in....

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; mixtec; nafta; spanish; zapotec
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"But with worsening conditions at home and relatively rosy reports from family or community members already here, the United States is attracting more indigenous immigrants - people who primarily speak a local indigenous language of Mexico, a country that is Latin America's Tower of Babel. Its government recognizes 162 living languages, plus some 300 dialects."

How do you say (462)lingual??

1 posted on 09/21/2006 2:53:21 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

You know you're from Texas when you click on the title thinking it'll say "Mennonite".


2 posted on 09/21/2006 2:54:06 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Naturally they will be lableled "Hispanic" when they start receiving government benefits.


3 posted on 09/21/2006 2:55:53 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: SwinneySwitch

6 million Jews murdered ---> 20 million Muslims
40 million aborted children ---> 40 million Mexicans

Any questions?


4 posted on 09/21/2006 2:57:43 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution ... only for a moral and religious people... -- John Q. Adams, October 11, 1798)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Pretty soon, we'll have them all here in the US; then, we can just go down and take over their country, finders keepers, while no one is looking.


5 posted on 09/21/2006 3:01:26 PM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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To: radar101; RamingtonStall; engrpat; HamiltonFan; Draco; TexasCajun; razorback-bert; ...

Old Mexico Ping!


6 posted on 09/21/2006 3:05:17 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!!)
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To: Migraine

If you're from Mexico or Guatemala and you commit a crime; the minute you're arrested; stop speaking Spanish. Or English, of course.

There aren't too many court translators for Zapotec, Mixtec, etc.

You can't assist in your own defense, so they have to let you go.


7 posted on 09/21/2006 3:07:46 PM PDT by Utahrd
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To: SwinneySwitch

What is "Don't crap in the spinach" in Spanish?


8 posted on 09/21/2006 3:09:25 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Utahrd
You can't assist in your own defense, so they have to let you go.

We can always send them to that Sherriff in AZ that would make them wear pink. A bunch of states should have ONE translator for that language on retainer .... and he lives at the tent prison. All prisoners not speaking english or spanish could be sent there for langague translation. Of course it might be a big line.

9 posted on 09/21/2006 3:12:28 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Property tax is feudalism. Income taxes are armed robbery of the minority by the majority.)
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To: ROTB
Any questions?

Absolutely! What's your point?

10 posted on 09/21/2006 3:15:17 PM PDT by houeto (Isn't 1400 years of the same shi'ite enough?)
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To: BurbankKarl

LOL!


11 posted on 09/21/2006 3:16:34 PM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (A storm is coming...)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Naturally they will be lableled "Hispanic" when they start receiving government benefits.

But if they kill a black dude screaming something very unpleasant, they qualify for instant upgrade to Lilly White Supreme, per SPLC requirements.

12 posted on 09/21/2006 3:17:57 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: SwinneySwitch

I've heard there's a whole bunch of Mexicans who only speak Arabic....


13 posted on 09/21/2006 3:18:20 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: BurbankKarl

¡No caca en la espinaca!


14 posted on 09/21/2006 3:18:47 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!!)
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What is "Don't crap in the spinach" in Spanish?

Good question! Thank you.

15 posted on 09/21/2006 3:20:51 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


16 posted on 09/21/2006 3:22:20 PM PDT by gubamyster
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"You can't assist in your own defense, so they have to let you go."

You obviously don't understand the underpinnings of the Mexican legal system. It follows most of the European continent.

You are presumed guilty until proven otherwise. If you can't prove your innocence, you stay guilty.

Mordida helps, though.


17 posted on 09/21/2006 3:25:20 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: BurbankKarl

no crap en la espinaca


18 posted on 09/21/2006 3:48:00 PM PDT by OBXWanderer
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To: SwinneySwitch

""It was hard at first," the 28-year-old Santol said in halting Spanish. "We would look for someone who spoke our language and Spanish. Now I have learned a little Spanish. Grace of God.""

Why don't you try learning English instead you leach!


19 posted on 09/21/2006 4:04:18 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
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What is "Don't crap in the spinach" in Spanish?

That's what I wants to know...

20 posted on 09/21/2006 4:08:18 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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