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In Tiny Courts of New York, Abuses of Law and Power
NY Times ^ | September 25, 2006 | WILLIAM GLABERSON

Posted on 09/24/2006 8:44:23 PM PDT by neverdem

Broken Bench

Some of the courtrooms are not even courtrooms: tiny offices or basement rooms without a judge’s bench or jury box. Sometimes the public is not admitted, witnesses are not sworn to tell the truth, and there is no word-for-word record of the proceedings.

Nearly three-quarters of the judges are not lawyers, and many — truck drivers, sewer workers or laborers...

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A woman in Malone, N.Y., was not amused. A mother of four, she went to court in that North Country village seeking an order of protection against her husband, who the police said had choked her, kicked her in the stomach and threatened to kill her. The justice, Donald R. Roberts, a former state trooper with a high school diploma, not only refused, according to state officials, but later told the court clerk, “Every woman needs a good pounding every now and then.”

A black soldier charged in a bar fight near Fort Drum became alarmed when his accuser described him in court as “that colored man.” But the village justice, Charles A. Pennington, a boat hauler and a high school graduate, denied his objections and later convicted him. “You know,” the justice said, “I could understand if he would have called you a Negro, or he had called you a nigger.”

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Eeric D. Bailey, a 21-year-old black soldier from nearby Fort Drum, was facing a disorderly conduct charge after a tussle with a white bar bouncer. Sitting three feet from Mr. Bailey, the bouncer identified him as “that colored man.” Mr. Bailey’s jaw dropped.

The soldier, who did not have a lawyer, told the judge that the term was offensive. But Justice Pennington said that while certain other words were racist, “colored” was not. “For years we had no colored people here,” he said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: courts; judges; legalprofession; thelawisanass
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1 posted on 09/24/2006 8:44:25 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

UNIONS AND THE MOB.


2 posted on 09/24/2006 8:45:25 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: neverdem
In Tiny Courts of New York, Abuses of Law and Power

And on the other end of the spectrum....

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3 posted on 09/24/2006 8:51:31 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: neverdem
"For the nearly 75 percent of justices who are not lawyers, the only initial training is six days of state-administered classes, followed by a true-or-false test so rudimentary that the official who runs it said only one candidate since 1999 had failed. A sample question for the justices: “Town and village justices must maintain dignity, order and decorum in their courtrooms” — true or false?

The result, records and interviews show, is a second-class system of justice.

The first class — the city, county and higher courts — is familiar to anyone who has served on a jury or watched “Law & Order”: hardly perfect, but a place of law-schooled judges, support staffs and strict rules. The lower and far larger rung of town and village courts relies on part-time justices, most of them poorly paid, some without a single clerk. Those justices — two-thirds of all the state’s judges — are not required to make transcripts or tape recordings of what goes on, so it is often difficult to appeal their decisions."

The abuses are real, but I have to giggle at the pretensions of the Times that trained lawyers are the answer. The best liars and screwers of other people in the legal system are lawyers, and to every instance of abuse by the mere peon citizenry listed in this article, I can cite probably ten others in NY State of other judges and attorneys who have abused their position, railroaded people, lied, cheated and embezzeled.

Reforms, particularly the need for transcripts and restrictions on the power to jail, are probably needed. But this piece drips such condescension on ordinary people that it's a stunning portrait of what libs really think about the rest of us.

I mean, image that, someone with only a high school diploma trying to adjudicate the complexity of a traffic citation. But getting felons, welfare cheats and drug addicts to vote; well, that's a fundamental liberty.

4 posted on 09/24/2006 9:01:11 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: george76; cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
It's a good time to resurrect this thread. I had forgotten about it.

Injured Hillary Cop Silenced?

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

5 posted on 09/24/2006 9:06:35 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like here in WNY..


6 posted on 09/24/2006 9:07:49 PM PDT by The Mayor ( http://albanysinsanity.com/)
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To: A CA Guy
UNIONS AND THE MOB.

Huh?

7 posted on 09/24/2006 9:10:56 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
Eeric D. Bailey, a 21-year-old black soldier from nearby Fort Drum, was facing a disorderly conduct charge after a tussle with a white bar bouncer. Sitting three feet from Mr. Bailey, the bouncer identified him as “that colored man.” Mr. Bailey’s jaw dropped. The soldier, who did not have a lawyer, told the judge that the term was offensive. But Justice Pennington said that while certain other words were racist, “colored” was not.

If it is, the NAACP has to change its name. Until they do, one has to assume it's neither racist nor offensive.

8 posted on 09/24/2006 9:11:04 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: neverdem
National Association For the Adancement of Who?

I'm sorry, but I'm sick and tired of the PC terrorists being able to drop a charge of racism based solely on "I AM offened" as a reason.

9 posted on 09/24/2006 9:15:04 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: FreedomCalls

Ditto for the United Negro College Fund.


10 posted on 09/24/2006 9:15:42 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: neverdem; A CA Guy

UNIONS AND THE MOB.
Huh?




why the huh? You know as well as anyone (doncha?) that it is unions and mobs that control most functions of this God forsaken state.


11 posted on 09/24/2006 9:18:01 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

I know personally that the east coast teamsters were the mob, at least when I was a child.

I haven't gone back since a kid though. Great move IMO.


12 posted on 09/24/2006 9:21:50 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: eleni121

Now it's Wall Street.


13 posted on 09/24/2006 9:23:53 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: eleni121

You say that like it's a bad thing. Without those guys we'd be like Mississippi or Alabama.


14 posted on 09/24/2006 9:28:57 PM PDT by Hong Kong Expat
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To: The Mayor; pierrem15; Doctor Raoul

I was grabbed by the by the story about the black soldier, and the apparent reaction by the author to the word "colored," implying that it was racist terminology. If so, how come the NAACP has not changed its name yet? It maybe archaic, but it isn't inherently racist. Various whites are called "white devils," and no one bats an eye.


15 posted on 09/24/2006 9:29:00 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: eleni121; A CA Guy
why the huh? You know as well as anyone (doncha?) that it is unions and mobs that control most functions of this God forsaken state.

I'll buy that argument in densely populated areas of the state, not the rural parts.

16 posted on 09/24/2006 9:35:06 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

The mob is business oriented, so if the action was somehow rural, they could be there to if it was lucrative.


17 posted on 09/24/2006 9:37:22 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: neverdem

There isn't enough money in the rural parts for them to pursue.


18 posted on 09/24/2006 9:39:44 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
There isn't enough money in the rural parts for them to pursue.

Neither do I recall any example in the story that hinted of mob or union influence.

19 posted on 09/24/2006 9:48:26 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 09/24/2006 9:51:22 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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