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The Dersh has outed Michael Lerner, the publisher of radical leftist Jewish magazine Tikkun, based in San Francisco, California for associating with the world's only Jewish Hitler lover, Norman Finkelstein! To make matters worse, Lerner has no problems with pro-Israel academics such as Alan Dershowitz being assassinated. One has the impression The Dersh late in life, is becoming a conservative despite his liberal reputation - because the Left has moved over to the lunatic fringe and embraced outright anti-Semites and in Tikkun's case... gone so far as to publish Jew-hating rants. I won't even get into Latuff's cartoon with its obscene imagery that doesn't deserve comment here except to note the Left has lost all bounds of decency. And in Lerner's case, his willingness to print Finkelstein's garbage is living confirmation of the true and trite adage a man is judged by the company he keeps. I would not consider him a rabbi and as The Dersh has rightly ajudged, he "has forever disqualified himself from being taken seriously on matters of Jewish concern, the Jewish community, or Israel." Let that be the last word in the Left's attack on a scholar whom I have tremendously grown to admire despite my disagreements with him on some domestic issues. On issues of Jewish concern and Israel - I and The Dersh are in complete agreement.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

1 posted on 09/27/2006 3:37:17 AM PDT by goldstategop
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2 posted on 09/27/2006 3:41:34 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 29-34)
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Guys like Dershowitz and Nat Hentoff (of the Village Voice) and Joe Lieberman are liberals on social and probably on fiscal issues, of that there's no doubt. But they aren't moonbats. I don't think Dershowitz has had some sort of Damascene conversion to being a conservative. Unlike the radical left that's hijacked the Democratic Party, he's just sane enough to see things that the moonbats refuse to.

}:-)4


3 posted on 09/27/2006 3:54:51 AM PDT by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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After Dershowitz's empassioned defense of the Liar in Chief, he can KMA. He has been teaching his moonbat brand of law for years, legally twisting the definition of truth, and now it is biting back

As far as I am concerned, he is on his own.


5 posted on 09/27/2006 3:56:04 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: goldstategop
One has the impression The Dersh late in life, is becoming a conservative despite his liberal reputation -

Not really -- or not necessarily. It must be about 20 years ago that Dershowitz had a regular column that the Boston Herald used to run. On most subjects, it was infuriating liberal pap (though more literate than most). On Israel, however, he was always spot on!

Not so reliable on Judaism. Didn't he have a book some years ago, proposing a "Judaism without God"? -- he wanted some kind of animating and unifying Jewish identity, but he's not religious (no, I never read it, but I think I saw reviews). To my Catholic ear, it sounded like a call for "Judaism without Judaism." Talk about bricks without straw!

10 posted on 09/27/2006 4:34:37 AM PDT by maryz
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This just goes to show that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are prophets, and their show, South Park is prescient!

Does anyone remember the episode "Jewbilee?" That was where "Elder Garth," from the "Synagogue of Antisemitic Jews" tried to usher in "The Reign of Haman."

On a more serious note, some of the worst oppressors of Jews in history have been people who were once Jews (or had Jewish ancestors), and rejected being Jewish. Examples would include many involved in the Bolshevik revolution and ruling the Soviet Union. And of course, there's been the rumor for many decades that Hitler had some Jewish ancestory.

For a less virulent version of this sort of thing, one can simply look at militant anti-smokers.

Mark


15 posted on 09/27/2006 4:55:53 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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16 posted on 09/27/2006 4:58:55 AM PDT by true_blue_texican
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The Dersh is an enigma. Half the time I see him I want to throw a vase through the TV - the other half I'm cheering every word he says. Go figure.


17 posted on 09/27/2006 5:00:11 AM PDT by joebuck
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Yes, I remember when Lerner was the unofficial chief liaison between the Jewish community and the Clinton WH!

I've heard though that Lerner and HRC may have had some kind of falling out. Does anyone have any details on why this occurred (if it did) and if there is any connection remaining between Lerner and Her Royal Thighness? After all, they both like to fancy themselves as "progressives."

19 posted on 09/27/2006 5:38:06 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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The articles in question

Norman Finkelstein's Obscenties (The Dersh On The World's Only Jewish Hitler Lover Alert)

Should Alan Dershowitz Target Himself for Assassination

20 posted on 09/27/2006 5:51:18 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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"Rabbi" Michael Lerner is an old SDS activist from the 1960s. I remember him very well from his days at the University of Washington, where he was - I think - a philosophy professor. He was an a-hole then, and remains one.


25 posted on 09/27/2006 7:17:27 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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He is just figuring out LERNER is a scumball. I say this "rabbi" on c-span one time and knew what he was. He is a socialist maybe even communist. He is a hater of God, Christian, Women, Truth, Firearms. Oh heck hs is a walking lefty acting like a rabbi. He makes me ill just as lefty socialist so called Christians do. FAKE.


27 posted on 09/27/2006 9:05:18 AM PDT by therut
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Say what you want about Dershowitz and I disagree with him over 85% of the time, but he is dead-on target when it comes to dealing with terrorists. He is all for torture if it involves mass murderers. Notice, how little air time the MSM gives him now that he is outspoken advocate of defending Israel and support of the war on terror.


28 posted on 09/27/2006 9:13:57 AM PDT by KenmcG414
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The Dersh's conversion has definitely elevated him in my eyes as well. He seems to be going through a Horowitz-ish transformation from Left to Right. Horowitz drives the liberals insane because he knows their tactics and then exposes them.


29 posted on 09/27/2006 9:59:52 AM PDT by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: goldstategop
It would seem that the operator of Tikkun needs to do some serous teshuva.
31 posted on 09/27/2006 10:09:32 AM PDT by Nachum
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Never forget Dershbagowitz wrote Sexual McCarthyism during the reign of His Slickness.

I have never and do not now trust him.

32 posted on 09/27/2006 11:54:17 AM PDT by sauropod ("Work as if you were to live 100 Years, Pray as if you were to die To-morrow." - Ben Franklin)
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This is from a rabbi who modestly purports to devote himself “to peace, justice, non-violence, generosity, caring, love and compassion.” This is a rabbi who purports to observe the Jewish commandments against evil words (“lashon harah”) and bearing false witness. This is a man who ardently opposes Israel’s targeted assassination of Hamas leaders, but who apparently has no qualms about the assassination of pro-Israel academics. That’s a rather peculiar definition of “peace, justice, and non-violence” Rabbi Lerner is employing.

The truly ugly; hypocritical and evil face of the Left is precisely that; if even a Rabbi is wearing it.

I do think 'the Dersh' is seeing it now; as he never has before. I hope more Liberal Jews can wake-up and see the 'light'; albeit without having to undergo terrorist-worthy, blindsiding- personal attacks such as Alan Dershowitz has experienced.

Of course, this is the favored MO of the Left. . .

33 posted on 09/27/2006 1:58:20 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .)
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The only difference between Dersh and Fink is that Dersh is pro-Israel and Fink is anti-Israel. Do they differ on anything else (eg, Castro or various "wars of national liberation" outside the Middle East)? Of course this is not to say that Fink's stuff isn't disgusting and hateful, because it is.

Dershowitz (like the "official leadership" of American Jewry) is simply a leftwinger who crosses over on the single issue of Israel (in the same way that Buchanan and his "palaeo" pals cross over from the other side on that one issue). Dersh and Co. support Israel as a modern western style democracy that is bringing women's suffrage and "gay rights" to the benighted Middle East. And Dersh and Co. become "the official leadership of American Jewry" because the genuine leadership of the Jewish Nation in exile in America (the Orthodox rabbinate) are so silent and even participants via support of and membership in secular "multidenominational" Jewish organizations.

The thing is, when pro-Israel Jewish liberals draw a picture of Jewish national purpose that is absolutely unrecognizable from a Torah perspective, sometimes it's the anti-Israel Leftists who actually connect the Zionist project to genuine Jewishness by screaming about "the genocidal teachings of the Bible" or the alleged "unfairness" of G-d having a chosen people.

37 posted on 09/27/2006 3:23:02 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ein ka'n "haskalah!")
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Michael Lerner is a dangerous jerk, who is in no way a rabbi. The Leftist Jews whom I have known who like him are hard core haters of Israel - lemmings who have not had a new thought in at least 35 years. A classic Northern California leftist, Lermer gets his followers to froth at the mouth and march in protest about a Palestinian Arab-owned tree in danger, but is silent when Jews and Christians are blown up or beheaded.

Lerner is a hypocrite with a self-promoting agenda. A self-hating Jew and enemy of Israel if there ever was one, he yelled "anti-Semitism" when the communists who run ANSWER did not invite him to speak at their anti-war rally! http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=385


45 posted on 09/28/2006 8:48:10 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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