And it's not just the current crop. Islam reliably and unfailingly turns out these butchers century after century after century, without skipping a beat. It's pure nonsense to defeat only the current crop of butchers. We're going to have to defeat the whole insane religion. How, I don't know, but we're going to have to defeat it if we love our kids.
various other concentration camps -- huge, huge typo. They were internment camps. Internment.
This problem does not have a non-genocidal solution.
Multiple Choice Test
1. In 1968, Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles by
(a) Superman,
(b) Jay Leno,
(c) Tiger Woods,
(d) a man from Palestine between 17 and 40 years old.
2. In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were kidnapped and killed at the Munich Olympics by
(a) the kid who cuts your grass,
(b) Sitting Bull,
(c) Arnold Schwarzenegger,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
3. In 1979, the US Embassy in Tehran was over-ran & 52 Americans were held for 444 days by
(a) Bruce Lee,
(b) Elvis Presley's deceased twin brother,
(c) a tour group of Minnesota grandmothers,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
4. During the 1980s, several Americans were kidnapped in Beirut by
(a) O J Simpson,
(b) the king of Sweden,
(c) the pope and a gang of Cardinals,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
5. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon was blown up, killing 220 Marines, by
(a) a Domino's Pizza delivery man,
(b) the president of the Southern Baptist Convention,
(c) Catherine Zeta-Jones,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
6. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger thrown overboard in his wheelchair by
(a) Sugar Ray Leonard,
(b) your next door neighbor,
(c) the Little Mermaid,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
7. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by
(a) Captain Kangaroo,
(b)Walt Disney,
(c) Mother Teresa,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
8. In 1988, Pan American Flight 103 was destroyed by a bomb in midair by
(a) Butch Cassidy,
(b) the Sundance Kid,
(c) the Tooth Fairy,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
9. The World Trade Center was bombed the first time in 1993 by
(a) Stonewall Jackson,
(b) Michael Jordan,
(c) Winston Churchill,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
10. In 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by
(a) Santa Claus,
(b) your sister's cat's grandmother's first owner's son's basketball coach's ex-wife,
(c) the World Wrestling Federation,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
11. On September 11, 2001, airliners were hijacked to crash into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon by
(a) Bugs Bunny,
(b) Bob the Tomato,
(c) Ricky Martin,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
12. In 2002, Daniel Pearl of the Wall Street Journal was kidnapped and beheaded by
(a) Bonnie and Clyde,
(b) the Michelin man,
(c) Barney Fife,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
13. In July of 2005, several targets were attacked in central London, killing 52 persons, by
(a) the Orkin Man,
(b) Margaret Thatcher,
(c) Mr. Goodwrench,
(d) Muslims between 17 and 40.
Western Civilization fought Islam non-stop for about 1,300 years, ending with WWI. The utter defeat of the Ottoman Empire and the colonial subjugation of Islamic territory staved off the wars for about 60 years.
Rather than supposing another 1,300 years of violence, I prefer GW's effort. Let's democratize and make capitalists of them.
A good Indian friend points out that India has a huge Muslim population that is much less militant, usually because they are spending so much energy making money.
In Iraq, if we can actually stand up a democracy so that they battle polls, focus groups and ballot boxes, it will be a much improved situation.
So I look for ways to change the game. Just because wild-eyed jihadists want to kill us all doesn't mean we have to commit genocide or die ourselves. We've got to create new ways to win. Some of that will involve bloodshed. Hopefully, we can find some additional ways that don't.
I honestly don't expect anyone to be more loyal to his nation than his religion. God is bigger than that. But there's not always a conflict. When a Christian fights for the U.S. in the war on terror, his loyalty to America isn't trumping his loyalty to Jesus Christ. His loyalty to and love for both can co-exist.
Is that not true for Muslims? Or do they not fight because they just don't care?
Let's not forget Chavez...
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2515529
Churchill on Islam:
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
Koran 8:12,13 says: "Strike off their heads. Strike off their fingertips... because they defied 'God' and 'his apostle'" (quotes mine)
Koran 9:23: "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you".
Islam is a Satanic mechanism to stir up trouble where there's peace.
Good thread. BTTT.
This is a good point about the terrorists comprising 10% of the world's Muslims. How are we supposed to sort out the 120 million dangerous Muslims from the other supposedly peaceful Muslims? Until and unless that silent majority steps up to the plate and forces the other 10% to change, we have no choice but to treat all Muslims as potential enemies.
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.