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No, Jesus is not a socialist
WND ^ | October 12, 2006 | Tom Snyder

Posted on 10/12/2006 7:00:04 AM PDT by ZGuy

A group of self-described "progressive" Christian evangelicals calling themselves "Red Letter Christians," and led by the left-oriented Sojourners magazine and left-oriented religious pundits like Jim Wallis and Tony Campolo, has recently emerged in the body politic. These self-proclaimed "progressives" have been making a lot of noise recently complaining about the ties that other Christian evangelicals have long held with the conservative movement in the United States, including the conservative movement in the Republican Party.

One policy under attack by these "progressives" is the conservative effort to "cut programs to the poor." They say that such a policy goes against Jesus Christ's commands in chapter 24 of the book of Matthew to feed those who are hungry.

These "Red Letter Christians" are making a lot of noise, but they are just a bunch of clanging cymbals – and the love that they claim to spout has no truth in it whatsoever.

What these misguided religious zealots conveniently fail to note is that nowhere in the New Testament or the other books of the Bible do Jesus Christ, His apostles, God the Father, the Holy Spirit, Moses or the Hebrew prophets command the government to take money from its citizens and transfer it to poor people. In fact, the Bible says just the opposite.

God presents us with three general ways in the Bible to take care of the poor and needy: 1) through the family; 2) through the church; and 3) through individual charity. The applicable passages for these three ways are Deuteronomy 14:28, 29, Numbers 18:24, Matthew 6:1-4 and 1 Timothy 5:3-16.

Now, the first two ways are pretty clear. People's first obligation is to the needy, poor, widowed and orphaned in their own families. Only after they do this do they have any obligation to help the needy, poor, widowed and orphaned through their local church organization. God established the pattern for this kind of church giving in Numbers 18:24 and Deuteronomy 14:28, 29. As David Chilton points out in his great book "Productive Christians in an Age of Guilt Manipulators," the bulk of Christian giving to the local church should be geared toward financing professional theologians, experts in biblical law and church discipline, teachers of God's word and leaders skilled in worship. It was only every third year that all the giving was set aside to help the needy, poor, widowed and orphaned. Even then, the money was not given just to anyone who showed up. Those able to work but don't do not qualify for help. Also, those who have families to take care of them don't qualify, nor do widows under age 60 qualify, according to the Apostle Paul in 1 Timothy 5:3-16.

Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh, talks about the third way in Matthew 6. He tells His listeners that they should give individual charity. He also says they should give such charity secretly: "Do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing."

In other words, Jesus is not a socialist. Nor is he a liberal. In fact, in none of the Bible passages just cited, nor in any others I know of, does Jesus, God or even Moses cite the government as the means by which the poor, needy, widowed and orphaned are housed, clothed and fed.

Thus, a simple, straightforward reading of the Bible, God's Word, including the "Red Letter" words of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, clearly shows that the American welfare state is anti-Christian and unbiblical. Any Christian who advocates such a government welfare system (including clergymen or women) should be harshly rebuked. Furthermore, any members of any political party, including Republicans, Democrats, Reform Party members, Libertarians or whatever, who advocate such a socialist system yet claim to be Christian should be reprimanded by their fellow brothers and sisters in Christ and by all church leaders.

If any such party members refuse to repent and change their ways, then their names should be posted at their church and throughout the whole land so that all Christians in the United States can know not to vote for these people or place them in positions of authority and leadership. Of course, all Christians should encourage families to take care of their own. And they should also encourage their churches to give at least one-third of their gross income to help the poor, needy, widowed and orphaned.

On that note, it is interesting to recall that the 10th Commandment in Exodus 20:17 actually protects private property by commanding people not to covet their neighbor's house or belongings. That commands applies to the average citizen as well as the elected official, the judge and all other government officials.

Furthermore, the Bible condemns laziness and praises hard work. Proverbs 10:4 says, "Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth." Proverbs 14:23 says, "All hard work brings a profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty."

Finally, it is interesting to note that, in Mark 7:20-23, not only does Jesus Christ declare that all sex outside of heterosexual marriage, including homosexuality, pre-marital sex and adultery, is evil, he also declares that both greed and envy are evil. Thus, Jesus Christ condemns both the greed of the rich man as well as the greed of the poor man, and the envy of the poor man as well as the envy of the rich man.

Thus, God condemns the politics of envy of the left, and he extols the virtues of hard work and capitalism, not just the value of charity!

Liberals and socialists like the "Red Letter Christians," Sen. Hillary Clinton, Sen. Ted Kennedy and former Vice President Al Gore are violating the commands of Jesus Christ, who is God in the Flesh. They are also violating the commands that God gives all of us in the Hebrew Scriptures as well. If they truly want to follow the words of Jesus in the New Testament, they should stop their opposition to the real Christian movement in America and join it. One of the first things they should do immediately is help cut government programs for the poor.

Christians must stop the ungodly, immoral rape of American citizens with the totalitarian, socialist welfare state! They must establish a proper and godly system of family, church and private charity. Not just Christians, but all true Americans should follow God's clear guidance in this matter. God will reward us mightily for our obedience in these matters.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: jimwallis; redletterchristians; religiousleft; sojourners; tomsnyder; tonycampolo
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1 posted on 10/12/2006 7:00:04 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

If Christ were a socialist he would have never, ever, called Matthew away from being a tax collector.


2 posted on 10/12/2006 7:01:38 AM PDT by Patrick1
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To: ZGuy

These "progressive" "Red Letter Christians" are just some of Hillary's hordes in waiting.


3 posted on 10/12/2006 7:05:25 AM PDT by Nextrush (Chris Matthews Band: "I get high...... I get high.....I get high.....McCain.")
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To: ZGuy
Furthermore, any members of any political party, including Republicans, Democrats, Reform Party members, Libertarians or whatever, who advocate such a socialist system

LOL -- what a glaringly stupid example of false "even-handedness" by spreading criticism across the board no matter how little it applies to some of the people grafted on to the list (for the purpose of making the actually guilty seem a bit less so).

4 posted on 10/12/2006 7:05:31 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: ZGuy
Government welfare is an impersonal, compelled giving by which, incidentally, thousands of workers in the bureaucracy earn a living.

The personal, targetted giving which Jesus advocates is the caring, personal type which is effective.

Because the former is forced and mandatory, it eats up funds which would be used for the latter.

Thus, millions of people go uncared for. A travesty.

5 posted on 10/12/2006 7:05:47 AM PDT by what's up
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To: ZGuy

"feed those who are hungry"

True. Go out and feed your neighbor. Where's the government enter into this?


6 posted on 10/12/2006 7:10:16 AM PDT by ryan71 ("You can hear it through the coconut telegraph...")
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To: ZGuy
God presents us with three general ways in the Bible to take care of the poor and needy: 1) through the family; 2) through the church; and 3) through individual charity. The applicable passages for these three ways are Deuteronomy 14:28, 29, Numbers 18:24, Matthew 6:1-4 and 1 Timothy 5:3-16.

This is the part that makes liberals nervous, as it requires direct action from them and from THEIR pocketbook.

I saw a great quote about the liberal approach to charity (and I paraphrase), "charity begins at someone else's wallet."

I've been saying for a long time that entitlement programs are not charity, and Christians should not support them. Charity is YOU giving YOUR MONEY/TIME to someone or some non-governmental organization.

Thank you for posting this.

7 posted on 10/12/2006 7:11:36 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: ZGuy

"...clearly shows that the American welfare state is anti-Christian and unbiblical"

Say it again!


8 posted on 10/12/2006 7:14:04 AM PDT by ryan71 ("You can hear it through the coconut telegraph...")
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To: ZGuy
In other words, Jesus is not a socialist. Nor is he a liberal. In fact, in none of the Bible passages just cited, nor in any others I know of, does Jesus, God or even Moses cite the government as the means by which the poor, needy, widowed and orphaned are housed, clothed and fed.

That's not entirely true. Lev. 19:9-10 indicates some sort of societal obligation to ensure that the poor and needy are housed, clothed, and fed. Likewise, Deu. 14:28-29 indicates some sort of social welfare program instituted under force of divine law.

9 posted on 10/12/2006 7:14:35 AM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: ZGuy

I seem to recall prophecy having something to do with a Monarchy.


10 posted on 10/12/2006 7:15:17 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: ZGuy

The parable of the good samaritan is an example. Jesus did not call for a law mandating that the country had to take in people who were assaulted by robbers.

He told the story of one man who decided to help another.


11 posted on 10/12/2006 7:18:18 AM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: ZGuy
The selfsame Tony Campolo - who after the Lewinsky scandal blew-up (pun intended)worked so hard to comfort and council the much suffering Billy Klintoon
12 posted on 10/12/2006 7:23:39 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: ZGuy
I have to introduce Tony Campolo at a Christian educator's conference in a couple of weeks. I wonder what I will say...?
13 posted on 10/12/2006 7:31:16 AM PDT by rightsmart
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To: Disambiguator
This is the part that makes liberals nervous, as it requires direct action from them and from THEIR pocketbook.

The evil force the drives socialism is envy. It's all about taking from others that are viewed as having more money, a big SUV, a nicer house. It is not charity at all, which is the reason leftists are not interested in giving away their own money.

Evil people who envy others accomplishments are the same that flew airplanes into the Twin Towers, killed the Jews in WW2, and nailed Jesus to the cross.

14 posted on 10/12/2006 7:34:14 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: jude24

How does being told by God to leave a little in the fields to be gleaned by widows and orphans, and being told by God to take a little to the community storehouse for the Levites, orphans and widows translate into a governmental obligation to provide welfare?

God demands that we as individuals help the needy in our midst. There is nowhere in the Bible a requirement for the government to take, under penalty of fines and/or imprisonment, money from one individual and give it to another. In all cases giving to others is a matter of individual conscience--God sets the standard of giving, but nowhere does He give to government the right to define or enforce that standard. In all cases, complying with God's will is an individual responsibility.

Jesus makes it clear that we are judged individually for our actions. If I "give" to others under duress, I have helped no one's soul, including my own.


15 posted on 10/12/2006 8:06:10 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: jude24
The Bible refers to the "poor" differently than we do today.

The Biblical poor were those who had no means to acquire the basic essentials of life - food, clothing, shelter. In fact, even slaves were not exactly "poor". The poor were so destitute that they could not even get a job as a slave because they could not even offer an ability to do manual labor. Often the poor were in this condition due to illness or infirmity such as being crippled or blind. In some cases it was due to aging, such as widows who ran out of money. The only thing they could do was beg and depend on the mercy of others.

The so called "poor" of America generally not only have the bare essentials, they have an abundance - enough food to be fat, a car, a TV, a DVD player, free education (and thus childcare), electricity, and indoor plumbing with running water. A hundred years ago most Americans did not have these things, which illustrates that they are not essential.

In our nation we have the rich, the middle class, the working class (who liberals will call poor), and the truly poor (who are very few in number). (The first three distinctions are relative, in that there is no precise point at which one could be definitively described as any one of these categories.)

I do not think helping the truly poor through individual charity, church charity, or even forced government taxation (even if wrong) makes a big impact on our pocketbook.

What is truly evil is to promote class envy of the working class against those who have more. Using the force of government to steal is at the heart of socialism. Socialism has the outcome of making only two classes: the rich and poor.
16 posted on 10/12/2006 8:42:44 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Patrick1

At the same time Jesus never said "Feed the poor at the point of a gun", yet that's what SOcialists demand of government ~ taxes are, after all, collected at the point of a gun.


17 posted on 10/12/2006 8:45:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Disambiguator
This is the part that makes liberals nervous, as it requires direct action
from them and from THEIR pocketbook.


As telemarketers and demographic studies will tell you...
Getting charitable donations (on average) is an arduous task in
socialist paradises like Massachussetts, and relatively easy in
the Bible Belt and redneck South.
18 posted on 10/12/2006 8:53:18 AM PDT by VOA
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To: ZGuy
My way of looking at it is that it is pure arrogance to believe that just any man or organization could decide how finite supplies of goods and resources can be distributed for everyone.

As a result it is better now for us to have the freedom that capitalism provides to decide for our selves what we need and what we should supply to others.

It's not a perfect system. But only one man, Jesus Christ, will do that perfectly as King.

19 posted on 10/12/2006 8:55:58 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: ZGuy
our congregation had a guest preacher fill in for a week a year or so ago ...

... the guy preached from the gospels of Marx and Engels calling it "biblical economics" ... I was one who walked out.

20 posted on 10/12/2006 8:58:12 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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