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This gentleman is spreading capitalism and thus lifting people out of poverty. Well done, sir!

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 10/13/2006 3:50:34 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 10/13/2006 3:50:56 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Well, I guess Cindy Al-Sheehadi wont be getting it..


3 posted on 10/13/2006 3:51:33 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi..)
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To: MadIvan

For once you can be proud of your grandfathers people ;-)


4 posted on 10/13/2006 3:52:31 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: MadIvan

Indeed yes!

Thus poor ole Cindy Sheehan was left in the dust?


5 posted on 10/13/2006 3:52:38 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: MadIvan

What does the delusional, self-appointed runner-up Cindy Sheehan get, a plaque?


6 posted on 10/13/2006 3:53:19 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MadIvan

(It was won last year by the International Atomic Energy Agency and its Egyptian head, Mohammed ElBaradei.)

What a shame there are so many undeserving people who win this prize!


9 posted on 10/13/2006 3:54:36 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: MadIvan
The citation concluded: "Yunus's long-term vision is to eliminate poverty in the world. That vision can not be realised by means of micro-credit alone. But Muhammad Yunus and Grameen Bank have shown that, in the continuing efforts to achieve it, micro-credit must play a major part."

I wonder how our forefathers in the West ever accomplished what they did without micro-credit.

11 posted on 10/13/2006 3:56:04 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: MadIvan

Oh Boy...at least it wasn't cindy sh*thead... ;o)


12 posted on 10/13/2006 3:57:04 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: MadIvan

This is cool news indeed. I did some think tank work with the guy who started GrameenPhone - providing cell phones to the poor in Bangladesh. He based his idea on the Grameen banks. Some people had the only phone in the village and made additional money by charging for calls, others used the phones for farm and other work-related information. It's turned into a real example of 'doing well by doing good.'


14 posted on 10/13/2006 3:59:18 PM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: MadIvan
The bank, which is owned almost entirely by its own borrowers...

Why that sound's like George's explanation about the Bailey Building and Loan when the run started and Potter was offering fifty cents on the dollar.

16 posted on 10/13/2006 4:07:18 PM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: MadIvan

Good news bump!


17 posted on 10/13/2006 4:07:36 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: MadIvan

Finally, it sounds like a good choice has been made. A little better than Arafat.


18 posted on 10/13/2006 4:10:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: MadIvan
This gentleman is spreading capitalism ..

Which is why I'm absolutely gobsmacked they got the prize.

L

19 posted on 10/13/2006 4:10:24 PM PDT by Lurker (Fear is the inspiration for stupidity.)
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To: MadIvan
U.S. Bankers - pay attention!(Wasted words.
20 posted on 10/13/2006 4:13:23 PM PDT by Apercu ("Res ipsa loquitur")
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To: MadIvan

Notice the wording of the Nobel people, unfortunately. They talk of "lasting peace" being brought about be the end of poverty and again, they impose a left-socialist vision of human action on the world and they also refuse to acknowledge "capitalism" instead calling it "Economic growth."


21 posted on 10/13/2006 4:16:31 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: MadIvan
"Economic growth and political democracy can not achieve their full potential unless the female half of humanity participates on an equal footing with the male."

I like the concept described here, and what it portends for a certain religious cult.

30 posted on 10/13/2006 4:42:35 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If you want to make a raccoon, you will first need to get a raccoon kit.)
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To: MadIvan
This gentleman is spreading capitalism and thus lifting people out of poverty.

According to this article from 1999, this gentleman is actually spreading cult-like collectivism (although only the 16th "decision" of the bank would seem to support that assertion). The other fifteen seem unobjectionable to me, however the following description in the article gives me pause:

Yet a close look shows that Grameen suffers from similar problems as US microcredit. From the beginning, its subsidies from international foundations and international financial institutions were very high. And today, only 3 percent of its assets are in the form of deposits from individuals and businesses, and it has never turned a profit. In fact, it is not a bank at all. It is more correct to view Grameen as a conduit for international aid dollars. What about Grameen’s low default rate of less than 3 percent? That sounds great until you look at precisely how the Grameen "Bank" goes about collecting the money (which its lends at 20 percent interest). Peer pressure is their phrase. Coercion is closer to the truth. Employees engage in weekly, door-to-door monitoring of the lives of all borrowers. Borrowers attend weekly physical training classes, are indoctrinated in collectivist ideology, and are told to be 100 percent obedient to the ideals of the bank, or else lose their borrowing privileges. On the whole, it is a process that has more in common with a cult than sound finance.

A few years back, the Grameen bank and its micro-credit approach to lending was profiled in a Scientific American article, and immediately afterward Al Gore picked up on it and touted it as the way to fix all of America's problems with poverty. Of course, Al Gore is well known for jumping on the bandwagon of trendy causes, always eager to dish out an intelligent-sounding quote without having bothered to apply any critical thinking skills to the topic at hand before spouting off, which later collapses under its own weight or after more careful consideration by more informed people.

31 posted on 10/13/2006 4:42:45 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: MadIvan
A young lady we know is off to Tanzania to help with determining eligibility of these loans. Women being helped to be self sufficient after their husbands die, or they are unmarried.

Wonderful and inspirational.

33 posted on 10/13/2006 4:56:47 PM PDT by OldFriend (ANNOY THE MEDIA ~ VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: MadIvan

OK, this guy sounds like a Muslim.

Now in the Muslim religion, isn't it wrong to charge interest? I know there are ways they get aroung this, but I imagine it is hard to get a loan in Islamic countries because of this.


34 posted on 10/13/2006 4:58:04 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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